50 trim T3/T04E vs GT30R ???
Yeah sure, he's one.....
still has the stock FMIC, injectors, and pressure regulator
That is with the SAFC, the AEM allows more agressive timing and more WHP, but you can make big power from the 16G
And I PM'd Mark at Turbo Trix, I saked him fpr some info (He is teh Tuner) and he is making real power, Turbo Trix has some fast cars..
Very long and smooth power band, these guys are getting my Money
still has the stock FMIC, injectors, and pressure regulator
That is with the SAFC, the AEM allows more agressive timing and more WHP, but you can make big power from the 16G
And I PM'd Mark at Turbo Trix, I saked him fpr some info (He is teh Tuner) and he is making real power, Turbo Trix has some fast cars..
Yah, Jeff actually made 362 with the stock injectors. People think that you have to upgrade the injectors.. We've tried this on jeffs car and it picked up nothing. I made 340 on the stock fuel pump. Once you change that, the car becomes very rich. I made 385 with the stock injectors with the aem and a fuel pump. I can look at my aem and let you know the injector duty cycle ... at 385
Mark
Turbotrix
Mark
Turbotrix
Very long and smooth power band, these guys are getting my Money
Ohhh sorry, Check their site, they told me Pump gas, I believe them, could I be wrong, sure. But I believe this is pump gas.
Thay are making this power through teh NEw flash they are doing, they are making good tunes with control of fuel and timing and the most boost possible, this is the best way (Besides stand alon with no MAF, which allows even more WHP.
But People are making but WHP on pump gas, 16G or not because of how effiecent the head is, it allows a lot of power on pump gas.
Email Turbo Trix I gues, there are Venders who post on this site too. But Generally you can expect 350WHP on the 16G and pump gas with cams and supporting mods, that is great.
Thay are making this power through teh NEw flash they are doing, they are making good tunes with control of fuel and timing and the most boost possible, this is the best way (Besides stand alon with no MAF, which allows even more WHP.
But People are making but WHP on pump gas, 16G or not because of how effiecent the head is, it allows a lot of power on pump gas.
Email Turbo Trix I gues, there are Venders who post on this site too. But Generally you can expect 350WHP on the 16G and pump gas with cams and supporting mods, that is great.
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Originally posted by ItsStockOfficer
How fast do you really want to go? The GT30R or 50 trim will have you trapping north of 120 MPH on race gas and 115 mph on pump. 120 MPH traps is FAST.
How fast do you really want to go? The GT30R or 50 trim will have you trapping north of 120 MPH on race gas and 115 mph on pump. 120 MPH traps is FAST.
I just dont like all that lag for my daily driver...
-non
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Originally posted by AMS
Not to be mean but I've put in countless hours on our dyno, a ton of time swapping out turbo kits and thousands of dollars on turbo's testing them. The reason I'm doing this is to offer the best kit possible for EVO owners. I've already given out a little info/hints on another forum and other vendors took that information for their own use.... you see where I'm going with this? If you want the best turbo combination give me a call.
-Martin
Not to be mean but I've put in countless hours on our dyno, a ton of time swapping out turbo kits and thousands of dollars on turbo's testing them. The reason I'm doing this is to offer the best kit possible for EVO owners. I've already given out a little info/hints on another forum and other vendors took that information for their own use.... you see where I'm going with this? If you want the best turbo combination give me a call.
-Martin
-non
I noticed that graph gives uncorrected hp figures and smoothing of 0, SAE #'s and smoothing on 3 (middle setting) will be slightly less. Not knocking it as these numbers are good but just stating that for comparison reasons. I made 350whp SAE(dynojet 2wd) on both kcevo's and Ming Guan evo's with 93 octane pump gas, and kcevo had a bad tank of 93. The only mods to Guan's car where a turbo back exhaust, cams, cam gears and EMS, everything from intercooler, piping, rubber intake, bov, ect was stock. Ming's car made less peak power on 100 octane than kcevo's (Chad) because of this but on pump gas they made very close numbers. To get these numbers I really had to take my time and watch the knock sensor activity, read plugs, and keep timing very low. We reached a point of diminishing returns where pulling more timing and trying to add boost gave little to no gains. These pull where done in 4th gear BTW. Sure I could have made more power on pump gas but I didn't feel that it wasn't 100% safe and I want their engines to last. I stayed well below the threshold of detonation and that's my goal for customers cars. I really dont' see a point of any pump gas horsepower peak numbers because there is always some sacrifice of reliability and walking a fine line of engine destruction just to get high numbers. If you have competent tuners it doesn't take magic to make horsepower numbers. I trust many of the venders out there to make good reliable horsepower.
-Martin
-Martin
I really dont' see a point of any pump gas horsepower peak numbers because there is always some sacrifice of reliability and walking a fine line of engine destruction just to get high numbers. If you have competent tuners it doesn't take magic to make horsepower numbers. I trust many of the venders out there to make good reliable horsepower.
and https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...hlight=HKS+272
I just Had AMS put 272 HKS cams in my evo. Before the cams i had SAFCII,Boost Controller,AMS FMIC,AMS Cat Back, K&N Filter, Exedy Hyper Single Clutch, and B&M short shift kit and a grounding kit. The car was very driveable with this set up. Then I put the cams in!!!
WOW THIS THING PULLS HARD. I get through gears so quick that I feel like I'm shifting more than my foot is on the gas. It gets to 80 so quick that I know im going to get in trouble with the law. The down side, the idle is chopy, it is not bad just driving around town and when it is at idle it sounds different but really don't feel very different. Then tonight I got stuck in stop and Go traffic, The car stalled like 3 times in an hour , I have never had it stall before. It fires right back up but it is kinda annoying to see that happen. It is almost like the engine only likes open roads and gets hot and *****y when it cant open up and play hard, does anyone else have this problem with the cams. I am rarly in traffic like that but when i am it would be nice not to stall. does the E manage have a stall feature on it to help this? ohh if you are considering the change. it is well worth it, the power is awesome!
WOW THIS THING PULLS HARD. I get through gears so quick that I feel like I'm shifting more than my foot is on the gas. It gets to 80 so quick that I know im going to get in trouble with the law. The down side, the idle is chopy, it is not bad just driving around town and when it is at idle it sounds different but really don't feel very different. Then tonight I got stuck in stop and Go traffic, The car stalled like 3 times in an hour , I have never had it stall before. It fires right back up but it is kinda annoying to see that happen. It is almost like the engine only likes open roads and gets hot and *****y when it cant open up and play hard, does anyone else have this problem with the cams. I am rarly in traffic like that but when i am it would be nice not to stall. does the E manage have a stall feature on it to help this? ohh if you are considering the change. it is well worth it, the power is awesome!
Another thing about tuning, Turbo Trix States that they get a great Idle and smooth powerband with the 272's and they run them in their own cars, no stalling or bucking. But then I see this customers car, what is the problem with his car? I know Turbo Trix flashes this problem away, can you guys do the same? I only ask cuz this comes with the Turbo Trix flash that makes the power I posted, so it is not only about power but the application and reliability of this power being made.
If im not mistaken, jeff runs Sunoco 94' octane. We have the benefit of having a bit higher octane out here in jersey. And to boot we have a sunoco next door. I agree with martin about pushing the limits of pump gas. Jeffs car was running 22lbs and did have the boost cut taken out and the rev limit taken out. Yes it was uncorrected, SAE numbers would be a bit less as previously stated by martin. Hope this clears up matters.
Mark
Turbotrix Racing
Mark
Turbotrix Racing
