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Old May 16, 2014 | 01:12 AM
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Tightening Spark Plugs without a torque wrench

Hey guys so i decided to check my spark plugs today just because i figured it had been a while since i checked them and they looked good so i put them back in. When i tightened them i got them snug then did about a 1/4 turn with the ratchet. on one of the spark plugs, as i was tightening it with the ratchet it kinda felt like it was starting to get easier to turn... i'm worried i possibly started to strip out either the spark plug or the spark plug hole itself. Is it possible that i over tightened it? Whats the worse that could happen if i did over tighten? (other than the spark plug blowing out of the hole). Doing a 1/4 turn with a ratchet after getting it snug is what i figured was necessary to ensure that it was tight enough. Thanks
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Old May 16, 2014 | 01:47 AM
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i can pretty much guarantee you didn't strip the spark plug threads
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Old May 16, 2014 | 02:00 AM
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i can pretty much guarantee you didn't strip the spark plug threads
Why is that? Are they pretty hard to strip? the only reason i worry is because when i was doing the 1/4 turn with the ratchet it felt like it was getting easier to turn at the end.
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Old May 16, 2014 | 05:22 AM
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you only do a quarter turn on the first installation to seat/ crush the crush washer on the end of the plug to get a tight seal.
when you re install used plugs you should turn them down by hand with a socket and extension and then when they get tight just nip them slightly.

cranking another quarter turn on an already crushed crush washer is excessive by the sounds of it and you must really have been leaning on it. how long is your ratchet bar?

if it felt like it was getting easier to turn best thing to do would be remove the plug and have a look at the threads and try re installing it again and see how it feels.
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Old May 16, 2014 | 06:11 AM
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id say the worst that would happen would be needing to re-tap/replace the head. or possibly shavings falling into your cylinder if it stripped that badly. but the actual plug would likely not be what you stripped unfortunately
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Old May 16, 2014 | 06:50 PM
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a quarter turn is what i do after the plugs have stopped without putting force.
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Old May 16, 2014 | 06:56 PM
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No need to crank them with all you got.... aluminum threads can strip easy
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Old May 16, 2014 | 10:10 PM
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Would it be a good idea to pull it out again and check? I drove it today and did a pull 1st through 4th and the spark plug never popped out or anything so im assuming its probably ok. But with the way i am id have to take it out again just to know.
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Old May 16, 2014 | 11:41 PM
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I would leave it alone for now since you say it seems fine so far. Just next time remember to torque them down with a torque wrench.
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Old May 17, 2014 | 01:26 AM
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I would leave it alone for now since you say it seems fine so far. Just next time remember to torque them down with a torque wrench.
Well i figure if the spark plug hole was stripped out it would have popped out when hitting full boost which it didnt.
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Old May 17, 2014 | 09:43 AM
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Also, if maybe one or two metal shavings happened to fall in would that do any damage? I wouldnt figure it would because its aluminum and pretty soft.
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Old May 17, 2014 | 07:09 PM
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no way to tell without removing the spark plug and checking it out...
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Old May 18, 2014 | 07:58 AM
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Also, if maybe one or two metal shavings happened to fall in would that do any damage? I wouldnt figure it would because its aluminum and pretty soft.

I wouldn't worry about that, I think your fine. I remember a testing done a few years back, although on a domestic cylinder head, to test how much torque a spark plug would take before it would start to strip. IIRC they went somewhere around 90 ft lbs on a aluminum cylinder head and it was still fine. Not saying I approve cranking the spark plugs down like the Hulk, but just saying that so long as you did it with the head cooled down it would normally take quite a bit to ruin the threads unless you were somehow cross threading going in.


One other thing I have seen when you go to tighten plugs down and they start to feel like they are not snugging down well is that sometimes you may get debris or oil on the bottom. Make sure next time you put fresh plugs in to check that the spark plug holes are free of debris and oil. G/L
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Old May 18, 2014 | 09:14 AM
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I wouldn't worry about that, I think your fine. I remember a testing done a few years back, although on a domestic cylinder head, to test how much torque a spark plug would take before it would start to strip. IIRC they went somewhere around 90 ft lbs on a aluminum cylinder head and it was still fine. Not saying I approve cranking the spark plugs down like the Hulk, but just saying that so long as you did it with the head cooled down it would normally take quite a bit to ruin the threads unless you were somehow cross threading going in.


One other thing I have seen when you go to tighten plugs down and they start to feel like they are not snugging down well is that sometimes you may get debris or oil on the bottom. Make sure next time you put fresh plugs in to check that the spark plug holes are free of debris and oil. G/L
Well hopefully thats the case. The head was warm but i didnt torque them down that hard. Maybe 1/8-1/4 after i got it hand tight with the extension. And at the bottom of the threads there was some oil. So maybe thats what happened.
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Old May 18, 2014 | 09:21 AM
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yeah don't muscle them, I think the spec is like 17ft-lbs which is next to nothing. basically enough to crush the washer and seal it, you don't need to tighten them like a suspension component. If you used a 1/4" ratchet, that's smart because typically they are way shorter handles and long handles create more torque since it's force*distance
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