6 Speed EVO 8/9 Synchrotech Carbon Synchro - Interest Thread
I don't see this being a benefit for the six speed. The stock synchro's in the six speed shift very well, especially when compared to the 5 speed. I have driven one shep prepared 6 speed (no the albins gears, just rebuilt with some work on the synchro's), and it was phenomenal.
Synchro's aren't going to really effect how hot the trans gets.
Synchro's aren't going to really effect how hot the trans gets.
From how it was explained to me the reason the six speed fails is: heat expands the gears and they hit the case. 6 speed has the same case as the 5 but has an extra gear/parts which equals less room to expand. How does this carbon synchro fix that assuming this is the reason 6 speeds fail?
The 6 speed case has cooling fins built into the case. I don't think the 5-speed does.
Last edited by Erik@MIL.SPEC; May 17, 2017 at 10:39 AM.
From how it was explained to me the reason the six speed fails is: heat expands the gears and they hit the case. 6 speed has the same case as the 5 but has an extra gear/parts which equals less room to expand. How does this carbon synchro fix that assuming this is the reason 6 speeds fail?
The synchro will not fix the issue of the gear breaking but the Albins stronger gears will. Since the OEM 1-2 synchros and sleeve are not sold individually by Mitsubishi, I think it will be a good item to offer. If we are going to make the synchros, we should probably make all of them and from the best material available for performance use (carbon lined).
If you want to do some light reading - lol, there is a very good article by Hoerbiger that shows direct comparison of performance of carbon synchronizers. (link below) I think the biggest difference you will see is that carbon is less sensitive to fluid choice and performs much better at high RPM shifting. The only down side to carbon is that the synchro can feel a bit notchy in very cold weather when thick MTF is used, but under normal to extreme driving the carbon will outperform brass or sintered every time.
http://www.hoerbiger.com/upload/file...onizers_en.pdf
If you want to do some light reading - lol, there is a very good article by Hoerbiger that shows direct comparison of performance of carbon synchronizers. (link below) I think the biggest difference you will see is that carbon is less sensitive to fluid choice and performs much better at high RPM shifting. The only down side to carbon is that the synchro can feel a bit notchy in very cold weather when thick MTF is used, but under normal to extreme driving the carbon will outperform brass or sintered every time.
http://www.hoerbiger.com/upload/file...onizers_en.pdf
From how it was explained to me the reason the six speed fails is: heat expands the gears and they hit the case. 6 speed has the same case as the 5 but has an extra gear/parts which equals less room to expand. How does this carbon synchro fix that assuming this is the reason 6 speeds fail?
We have decided to move forward on the EVO 8/9 6 speed carbon synchros and 1-2 sleeve. I will post up a discount code for EVOM pre-orders when they get closer to being finished later this year.






