why not a 2.4 ? RnR offers a complete kit and you get to keep your original block also , i think ryan from rnr is runing a gt35r and getting full boost by like 3400 or something rpm ?!?! dont quote but i know im some what close

 

If he gets full boost on that turbo by 3400 rpm, I'm sold! That would be nuts!

 

If it were me, I would do a built 2.0L simply for a reliability factory. I like a higher-faster reving engine. You can knife-edge your crank, remove balance shafts and get an even faster reving engine (not so comfortable on the street though).

And no offense, but RnR continually exagerates their claims.

 

...and AMS is claiming the same out of a few of their 2L turbo kits. Maybe not quite as large a turbo, but I don't think Jack's build incorperates such a thing anyway.

 

Live street racers

 

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If it were me, I would do a built 2.0L simply for a reliability factory. I like a higher-faster reving engine.


I don't agree that a 2.0l wound up to 9000rpms is going to be any more reliable than a 2.3l with a 7500rpm rev limit, IMO.

 

Whichever way you go, be sure to get the longest rod and shortest deck you can. That way you can get the best torque out of what you make.

 

This should be really interesting.. Although I am currently experimenting with variations of the OE Mitsubishi turbo, there's nothing saying I won't try other larger turbos in the future. But my goal for the time being is to maximize what mitsubishi has provided using as many OE, or equivalent components. Its just a personal goal of mine, but also because its something very few are attempting. In a year I can look back and see if I'm wasting money, or it changes the world.. Who knows..

The one thing I really appreciate is all of the input, and the fact that all of the input in this thread has been a contribution of a positive nature..

When I first put up the post, I was leaning strongly towards the 2.3l, now I'm on the fence.. I know what I'd want to do.. But I also know what is realistic to expect from each option..

What will be the most interesting is what the ultimate power I make is.. For me, its not important and likely won't be disappointed no matter what the outcome is.. But I'd like to contribute these things as research and hopefully a positive outcome that others can follow if their more interested in a street car with *****, over a drag car or track car (though I suspect anything I do would be well suited for the track too)

 

Since HP is a derived value (torque X RPM) I always go for the extra "headroom" a free spinning motor gives me. (18,000 baby on my open class rotary valve dirt oval gokart)

;-)
PS when I asked David Buschur his reply was We make 1,000 HP with the conquest 4g63 2 liter robert. How much more are you going to need?

 

Im sure you will have a awsome setup. Too bad i lost the bid . LOL.. Now to the point at hand. I would say if you want to stick with the stock mistu turbos and parts i would go with the 2.0. If you are planning on running a large turbo go with the 2.2, 2.3, 2.4. Just sounds like a lot when you have to go .60 over to get to 2.4. Anyway just my 0.02 but if you ever want to sell that short block give me a call. LOL..

Chris

 

Would you really do that, or just start with a 4G64T block (from a Fuso Delica truck)? I don't think it's wise to bore a 4G63 that much, but better to make a hybrid. I think it was turbo magazine that reported a 45hp gain on a stock Evo with no other changes.

Stroker kits usually reside in the 2.2 and 2.3L range, and now I've heard of people putting 4G63 cranks in the 4G64 to get a 2.1L that still has excellent high revving potential but, a bit more displacement.

 

I dont know if i would go that high. I only went .20 over on mine but now that it is done i think i should have gone .40 over. Oh well maybe down the road or if i get another block. But i also think .20 over would be perfect for the stock turbo. With the bigger turbos (35/40R) i would say go with at least .40 over and possible the .60. Just sounds like allot though specially if you have seen the cylinder walls and seen how much room there is. Most stroker kits only go up .2 of a liter seems to be the common number it wasnt till the 4g63 that i have seen those numbers raise. Im sure it has been done before just somthing that is not common in 4 cylinder import world i guess?

Chris

 

get a mitsu galant engine. which is a 2.4 sohc.. do hybrid dohc conversion and work from there.

 

Stroke the damn thing & piece together an assembly that has a longer rod with piston that have the minimum in piston pin height.

I have not measured the piston pin heights of these aftermarket stroker kits, but in the photo's, the pin height looks to be about 1.5-1.7" inches.........stock piston pin height.

stroke it, hell with 2.3, get a differnt block, bore it out & go 2.5!

You will be driving this on the street right????????????????

torque NOW, is what you want, not the okay.....here comes 5k,6k, oh yeah now shes breathing.

 

Maybe, but that's why I said use the Delica Turbo truck block it is also a 4g64, but it is a turbo block with oil squirters and might be a better choice then the Galant. Harder to find, but probably worth it.

I have heard people say the squirters aren't necessary, but then that they could also be added by a good machine shop, too. So I'm not sure how Evo engine builders go about it.

If you want to see how people with crazy money would do it, go here:

http://www.ffwdconnection.com/

...and you'll learn why God gave you two kidneys.