Vishnu vs Buschur and Al.......I LOSE!!!
 

First let me start, I am NOT a drag-racer, but neither was my friend I raced against at the Drag strip tonight. I have a "boat-load" of money in my car, he doesnt.

You can see in my signature, my mods. I have NO methanol kit in the car now, but decided to run 110 Leaded race gas. HE WAS ON PUMP GAS!! 93 octane. I dynoed with Shiv a couple years ago in chicago. I had the 110 leaded map he dynoed me on, but didn't use it, because he did the dyno with 272 cams (I now have 280's), and I had the stock turbo, (Now I have the TME ti). I wasn't sure if I should run it. Shiv dynoed it at 340 I believe on the dynojet.

I did have the dyno map from Andrew at Dyno4mance, where I dynoed my "new" mods at 304 on the DD dyno.(last July) I ran with that map, and dumped 110 Leaded in the car. Now on to his car and mods.

He will answer after he gets home from the track, but he has an 03 or 04 evo MR. His mods are (buschur intake/MBC/turbo-back/272's/FMIC) THATS IT!! Besides the tune with Al. He also had launch control. he was also on pump gas (93 octane) NO METH!

I posted this HERE and not in the dragracing section, so you can look at mods, save here and there if it is DRAGRACING you want!! I really dont, I am a roadcourse racer instead. We were neck and neck the whole way down the track, and let me tell you, IT WAS FUN!! I have nothing to prove, I just went out and had some fun.

Here is the "timeslip" of both of us. I can post a picture when my camera charges.

another thing. I took my meth kit out, and taped the hoses shut, I don't know if this is a variable or not.

MY TIME

R/T .343
60' 1.815
330 5.231
1/8 8.060
MPH 86.77
1000 10.478
1/4 12.504
MPH 110.61

Left 1st .0125

HIS TIME

R/T .470
60' 1.779
330 5.151
1/8 7.958
MPH 87.44
1000 10.366
1/4 12.389
MPH 111.23

I ran 3 times tonight, and THIS WAS my fastest MPH and ET the others were 12.6 and 108 and 109MPH

Again, if your goal is DRAGRACING (I will do it for fun, but roadrace more) re-think the parts. look at both, me TME turbo, HKS DLI II, etc... Is it worth it?? At the end of the day, looks like you can spend LESS, and get thru the 1/4 mile FASTER!

Just thought I would share!!

I think you need to get your car re-tuned before you make assumptions. There seem to be a lot of variables there.

hard to beat buschur parts, they make some good power. Im going that route for sure. Kind of hard to put anything other than bushur or ams parts on. Everyone is worried about dyno numbers, look at all the track numbers those guys are running {thumbup}

I ran on the map that Andrew dynoed in July, So in effect, this is a NEW TUNE!! just dumped in race-gas. what are the LOT of variables you are talking about, please explain! I plan to have Shiv tune the meth map at the end of this month. If my kit comes back in time!

Again, I HAVE NO AXE TO GRIND, JUST STATING OBSERVATIONS!!!

110 leaded with a 93 tune will not do anything, I've seen cars loose power on the dyno when adding such a high octane gas into a car tuned for a lower timing 93 octane tune.

With those mods on a race gas map you should be trapping 115ish. What was the map Andrew tuned for? I have heard people running slower when they put in race gas. The difference between my car on 100 and 91 is immediately obvious. I think that someone with similar mods to yours running on 93, it just doesn't make sense to be trapping the same. It has nothing to do with Vishnu vs. Buschur. Also, did he make a run in your car or did you make a run in his car? I mean, Curt Brown ran a 10.9x on the stock turbo.

You sure his car was an MR? MR's are 05's and up right?

The variables I would worry about are drivers. Did you see TTP's car run against the GT35'd car that they posted up a day or two ago. Two differently modified cars, driven by two differently skilled drivers , running similar times is nothing new....

Scorke

Good to know!! I went last week, once on pump-gas, and was about the same time 12.6, and I missed 3rd gear twice!! Good point!

I agree. The only thing this thread is going to do is start a flame war once again.

I tuned on pump gas with Andrew in July 93 octane. I thought dumping in race gas adds HP, regardless of the tune. and helps in the detonation department. We left the line at the same time, and were door to door the whole way, I thought the XTRAS I had on my car would pull me ahead. again, I dont care I lost, big deal. I just thought MORE PARTS/MORE MONEY= finish line quicker.

Maybe we should hold hands and sing Kumbuya!! I dont want to have another one like the last flame-war!! This is just a public service announcement, and what I observed!!

I disagree! Everybody is all up in arms about closing thread now-a-days and I do not see why, especially when everybody on evom can learn from threads like these.

Try not to relate parts to speed, I think we have all seen many less modified cars run faster than more heavily modified ones, and this all has to do with the proper tuning/methodology to modifying cars.

Nobody on evom, or in the world knows exactly what your car needs/what would make it fastest but that is why we are all here, to experiment, to fail, and to learn from what does and what doesnt work. I believe that if your car was tuned to its full potential and or driven by your buddy it would of ran a faster time, and its variables like these that will eternally make comparisons like this almost impossible to make, other than figuring out whose car is faster at that given time of day, at that given 1320.

Scorke

Your thread title is inviting trouble. As for running 110 octane on your 93 octane map, you are defintely not getting the most out of your car. The A/F ratio can be leaner, and your boost level can be upped to run better with the higher octane.

Yeah, you just see the Vishnu guys responding. It's not full of Buschur/Dynoflash guys taking the opportunity to jump on something that isn't really there.

Smokedmustang, believe me, your mods are fine and could run 11s all day, especially on race gas, but everything needs to be put together properly, the tune needs to be right, and the driving needs to be superb. Even your buddy ran a good bit slower than expected for his mods, so this isn't an example of Shiv vs Buschur really. It's just you not being a big drag racer, and your buddy driving a little bit better. No biggie. I know the guys don't want me to reference the time in my sig.