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TTP Engineering Apr 21, 2006 07:48 AM

What's wrong with this picture?
 
http://www.ttp-engineering.com/fidanzafooked.jpg

matt55 Apr 21, 2006 07:49 AM

intake cam gear marks are off

itzwolf Apr 21, 2006 07:51 AM

Cams pins are set for older 4g63 for an Eclipse etc.. NOT an Evo

EVOwhat Apr 21, 2006 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by itzwolf
Cams pins are set for older 4g63 for an Eclipse etc.. NOT an Evo

winnAr

Fast Frank Apr 21, 2006 07:59 AM

Yeah & somebody not knowing what location to put them in = bent valves & broken pistons :(

TTP Engineering Apr 21, 2006 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by matt55
intake cam gear marks are off

Ding ding ding...

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J/K, Good call though. At least 10 people have looked at these gears and did not notice the flaw in the manufacturing process. I finally studied them last night and was like "wait a minute, WTF?!".

matt55 Apr 21, 2006 08:07 AM

What diff will it make if the "dsm" holes are used vs "evo" holes ?

I got mine in the "dsm" holes .....

hashiriya Apr 21, 2006 08:09 AM

whoa. now that is bad.

TTP Engineering Apr 21, 2006 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by Fast Frank
Yeah & somebody not knowing what location to put them in = bent valves & broken pistons :(

This is actually a misconception common with these gears.

I have contacted Fidanza twice about the dowels. They stated there is no difference in what dowel holes you set the gears in as long as you line them up with the corresponding marks on the valve cover if you use the DSM settings.

Here is who I contacted:
FIDANZA
PHONE: (440) 259-5656
TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE: ext. 116

TTP Engineering Apr 21, 2006 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by matt55
What diff will it make if the "dsm" holes are used vs "evo" holes ?

I got mine in the "dsm" holes .....

Mine are set the same. 11.51@118.68mph = no issues.

matt55 Apr 21, 2006 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
Mine are set the same. 11.51@118.68mph = no issues.

maybe the "dsm" holes are just faster than the 'evo' holes , cough -118.36mph-cough :lol:

itzwolf Apr 21, 2006 09:23 AM

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Good to know. Figured it was designed that way on purpose, but never really looked further into it.

As far as defect from the Fidanza, I have a set of Red ones that a few teeth on the one gear appear to be off. What is now happening is the corners of the gear are wearing away. Now the timing belt has a little wear, and will need replacing sooner than needed. Stock cam gears perfect without wear, and timing belt looked new when these were installed.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/at...id=88616&stc=1


Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
This is actually a misconception common with these gears.

I have contacted Fidanza twice about the dowels. They stated there is no difference in what dowel holes you set the gears in as long as you line them up with the corresponding marks on the valve cover if you use the DSM settings.

Here is who I contacted:
FIDANZA
PHONE: (440) 259-5656
TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE: ext. 116


PVD04 Apr 21, 2006 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by itzwolf
Good to know. Figured it was designed that way on purpose, but never really looked further into it.

As far as defect from the Fidanza, I have a set of Red ones that a few teeth on the one gear appear to be off. What is now happening is the corders of the gear are wearing away. It's not one the side that 'pulls' the timing belt but obviously a defect. Now the timing belt has a little wear, and will need replacing sooner than needed. Stock cam gears perfect without wear, and timing belt looked new when these were installed.

The gears do not pull the timing belt, the timing belt pushes the gears. The wear is on the side withstanding force.

-Paul

itzwolf Apr 21, 2006 09:32 AM

I know they don't pull. And yes it has the force applied to the belt there. However this is the only place it is happening. To many things going on at once =P

TTP Engineering Apr 21, 2006 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by itzwolf
Good to know. Figured it was designed that way on purpose, but never really looked further into it.

As far as defect from the Fidanza, I have a set of Red ones that a few teeth on the one gear appear to be off. What is now happening is the corners of the gear are wearing away. Now the timing belt has a little wear, and will need replacing sooner than needed. Stock cam gears perfect without wear, and timing belt looked new when these were installed.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/at...id=88616&stc=1

Resolution on that pic needs to be better.


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