Maxing out the stock turbo on pump - need your input on UICP & Stock Intake Box
Goal: max stock turbo on pump gas, while keeping the car pleasant for every day driving.
So far, I ordered a FR Manifold & injectors. Trying to decide if I can do something about improving intake restrictions and intercooler piping One option is to say f.ck it and just get an injen intake with an UICP. However, I prefer engine/exhaust noise to intake, so I am also thinking of getting an UICP that will fit around the stock intake box. I am also pondering about cutting part of the top of the stock intake box to see if I can decrease the pressure drop caused by the stock intake box while keeping sound levels at reasonable levels & keeping the snorkel feeding cold air to the filter at higher speeds. Questions:
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Are you controlling boost via the custom flash and the stock solenoid, or do you have an EBC/MBC, and just forgot to include it in your mod list?
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I believe the greddy and injen fit with the stock air box
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custom flash with the stock solenoid. I will talk to the mapper to see if he needs to use an EBC for better results. Before talking to him though I want to have a good idea on what I want done / which parts etc.
Originally Posted by sparky
(Post 4095987)
Are you controlling boost via the custom flash and the stock solenoid, or do you have an EBC/MBC, and just forgot to include it in your mod list?
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Send the injectors back, you dont need them.
Get a good upper IC pipe without a lot of bends. I wouldnt waste my time with Injen. |
what is your setup? I actually do not need to sent anything back. the shop where I get my stuff done has bought bunch of parts to try on race cars - fr, indivia and tomei manifolds, various intakes, intercoolers and 20g based turbos. My mapper said I could try anything I want and keep it if I like it.
As for the injectors - next time around, I will definitely be pushing 420bhp (130+ whp over stock baseline) so I might get the injectors for safety. I will do some more research and measure my IDC's
Originally Posted by Soon2BEVO
(Post 4097084)
Send the injectors back, you dont need them.
Get a good upper IC pipe without a lot of bends. I wouldnt waste my time with Injen. |
Originally Posted by Bosshog
(Post 4097147)
what is your setup? I actually do not need to sent anything back. the shop where I get my stuff done has bought bunch of parts to try on race cars - fr, indivia and tomei manifolds, various intakes, intercoolers and 20g based turbos. My mapper said I could try anything I want and keep it if I like it.
As for the injectors - next time around, I will definitely be pushing 420bhp (130+ whp over stock baseline) so I might get the injectors for safety. I will do some more research and measure my IDC's I am full bolt-on, dynoflash custom tuned, walboro, hallman mbc. You dont need the injectors for safety but I mean its not going to hurt you so if you want them for the hell of it, go for it, its just that they are not needed. I was maxxing out my injectors but I also have one if not the highest pump gas/stock turbo dyno. BTW full bolt on means full exhaust, mani, 02 cams, fmic, piping, intake yada. Nothing crazy or unexpected. |
I am right there with you on the highest pump gas stock turbo numbers and i was even on the 9.8 hotside, stock outlet, stock manifold. 361whp/369wtq Stock injectors they were maxxed 98%
I only street tuned the car and the first pull on the dyno killed the stock clutch. I know i left a lot on the table the AFR's were in the 10's. We will never know cause i have swapped the turbo out for the 20GLT. For dyno reff numbers a GT35R on pump put down 380whp/350wtq on pump. |
Originally Posted by Spaceball 1
(Post 4097320)
I am right there with you on the highest pump gas stock turbo numbers and i was even on the 9.8 hotside, stock outlet, stock manifold. 361whp/369wtq Stock injectors they were maxxed 98%
I only street tuned the car and the first pull on the dyno killed the stock clutch. I know i left a lot on the table the AFR's were in the 10's. We will never know cause i have swapped the turbo out for the 20GLT. For dyno reff numbers a GT35R on pump put down 380whp/350wtq on pump. Did you ever run at the track with your 361whp stock turbo setup? |
Originally Posted by Soon2BEVO
(Post 4097426)
Oddly enough, when I put down the 378whp, my injectors were maxxed out, however, I was running pretty lean so Im sure they would have been maxxed before it.
Did you ever run at the track with your 361whp stock turbo setup? |
he already put his mods: custom tune, walboro, hallman mbc, full exhaust, mani, 02 cams, fmic, piping, intake. I am planning on doing pretty much the same. Gonna drop the car in the shop this week to get the injen intake + UICP putin to see if I can handle the noise in day-to-day driving.
Something of interest for people looking at manifolds: My friend (who also maps my car) is doing a manifold test within the next two weeks on a evo race car (they are trying full race, invidia and tomei) I will post the findings once the test is completed. |
Originally Posted by Bosshog
(Post 4097642)
he already put his mods: custom tune, walboro, hallman mbc, full exhaust, mani, 02 cams, fmic, piping, intake. I am planning on doing pretty much the same. Gonna drop the car in the shop this week to get the injen intake + UICP putin to see if I can handle the noise in day-to-day driving.
Something of interest for people looking at manifolds: My friend (who also maps my car) is doing a manifold test within the next two weeks on a evo race car (they are trying full race, invidia and tomei) I will post the findings once the test is completed. |
Originally Posted by cij911
(Post 4097660)
Must be a really high reading dyno....
I wouldn't think so - he put down 378whp then went on to trap 118... sounds right to me... |
thats because it is bhp and not whp. the local dyno reads ver low whp figures - lower than dyno dynamics and mustang dynos you guys have over there. we tested a 3 stock 9s to put down 205whp, which is estimated at 280bhp. at this power level my car could go head to head with m3s if not faster. last time, I put down 310+whp (estimated at 395bhp). after this set of mods, I am hoping for 330+whp
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118mph trap should be around 420+bhp. similar power / trap speed to a Porsche 996TT
Originally Posted by mudduck
(Post 4097693)
I wouldn't think so - he put down 378whp then went on to trap 118... sounds right to me...
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