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n2oiroc Sep 3, 2011 05:11 PM

crankcase ventilation idea.....
 
oil pan has a -10 fitting like this.

http://www.streettunedmotorsports.co...bo_fitting.htm

how about using a fitting like this and running a line to a catch can?

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EA...0ERL/?rtype=10

RSMike Sep 3, 2011 05:17 PM

Will the "pressure" coming out of the engine push the oil from the turbo into the catch can as it might not have a chance to make it to the sump?
Or did you want to use that "T" fitting as a drain from the bottom of the catch can?

I'm going to be building a catch can, and run 2x lines directly off the back of the block (where the stock balance shaft sits), as well as the 2x lines off the head.

n2oiroc Sep 3, 2011 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by RSMike (Post 9580281)
Will the "pressure" coming out of the engine push the oil from the turbo into the catch can as it might not have a chance to make it to the sump?
Or did you want to use that "T" fitting as a drain from the bottom of the catch can?

I'm going to be building a catch can, and run 2x lines directly off the back of the block (where the stock balance shaft sits), as well as the 2x lines off the head.

i really doubt there would be that much pressure, if there was this would help and let the oil drain back easier. i dont intend to use it as a drain, i dont want and of that crap going back inthe oil. i guess i could carefully tape my block off and drill the block, but its already an assembled short block and i would rather not take the chance of any chips getting somewhere.

240Z TwinTurbo Sep 3, 2011 05:27 PM

You can do this, but you need a one way valve on the bottom of the catch can. You want to avoid drawing up oil from the pan. I have run a similar setup several times in the past with no issue. BTW, this is for a sealed catch can.

n2oiroc Sep 3, 2011 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by 240Z TwinTurbo (Post 9580305)
You can do this, but you need a one way valve on the bottom of the catch can. You want to avoid drawing up oil from the pan. I have run a similar setup several times in the past with no issue. BTW, this is for a sealed catch can.

ill be running a vta can so i shouldnt need a check valve. the only issue i was worried about was the drain from the turbo being affected.

240Z TwinTurbo Sep 3, 2011 05:39 PM

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What is a vta can?

BTW, if the can is not sealed you lose the ability to draw vacuum on the block via turbo inlet. This is also a reason for the one way valve.

n2oiroc Sep 3, 2011 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by 240Z TwinTurbo (Post 9580333)
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What is a vta can?

vent to atmosphere, not sealed it will have a filter on top. like this.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MOR-85473/

i dont want any chance of the turbo sucking oil so i dont hook anything up to the intake.

240Z TwinTurbo Sep 3, 2011 05:43 PM

BTW, on the setup shown below for the twinturbo ZR1, I measured 3in of vacuum at the can with 7psi of boost.

http://www.eng.fsu.edu/~jthagard/EVO...ns/f8large.JPG

240Z TwinTurbo Sep 3, 2011 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by n2oiroc (Post 9580336)
vent to atmosphere, not sealed it will have a filter on top. like this.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MOR-85473/

i dont want any chance of the turbo sucking oil so i dont hook anything up to the intake.

With the proper can sucking into the turbo should not be an issue. I fabricated my own, but you can buy proper sealed catch cans. Otherwise, you will build block pressure.

http://www.saikoumichi.com/

n2oiroc Sep 3, 2011 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by 240Z TwinTurbo (Post 9580349)
With the proper can sucking into the turbo should not be an issue. I fabricated my own, but you can buy proper sealed catch cans. Otherwise, you will build block pressure.

http://www.saikoumichi.com/

i have never seen a catch can that actually caught all the oil, i even had an expensive mann hummel unit that everyone raves about that puked oil everywhere. i'd really rather just vent to atmosphere and not worry about it. thats what i did on my sti and it worked great.

RSMike Sep 4, 2011 01:57 AM


Originally Posted by 240Z TwinTurbo (Post 9580337)
BTW, on the setup shown below for the twinturbo ZR1, I measured 3in of vacuum at the can with 7psi of boost.

Is that top line going to a venturi pipe in the exhaust to create vacuum in the catch can and the sump?

Cheers, Mike

240Z TwinTurbo Sep 4, 2011 05:58 AM

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Top line went to PCV and bottom was split to the two inlets of the GT3076r turbo's. However, I have seen the venturi ports on the exhaust and understand they are very effective at creating suction. There are a few internet articles on the topic and you can buy the weld on bungs from Summit Racing for cheap.


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