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Evopower88 Mar 9, 2014 06:30 AM

Which tial wastegate i should use?
 
Hi guys,

Someone can help me, i tell me whats the difference between the tial 38mm vs 44mm?

Thanks

Faisalm Mar 9, 2014 01:11 PM

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Evopower88 Mar 10, 2014 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by Faisalm (Post 11139730)

Thanks!

Im thinking run 35 psi with c16

E9vtk Mar 10, 2014 11:30 AM

Always used a 44 and never had any boost issues.

Faisalm Mar 10, 2014 11:54 AM

The 44mm is a better choice. Less of a hassle and some would argue "better" performance.

Evopower88 Mar 10, 2014 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by Faisalm (Post 11140597)
The 44mm is a better choice. Less of a hassle and some would argue "better" performance.

I read in other forum, and said that the 38mm is for high boost aplication? Im confused..

RS200 Mar 10, 2014 03:06 PM

The less boost you run, the more that goes through the wastegate. Sure, if you're running 30+ psi, the wastegate isn't going to do much. That being said, I had a 44mm and liked it.

E9vtk Mar 10, 2014 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by Evopower88 (Post 11140633)
I read in other forum, and said that the 38mm is for high boost aplication? Im confused..

That's what they say, but I've never had a problem with high boost and a 44 also less chance of boost creep.

Evopower88 Mar 10, 2014 08:19 PM

Thanks guy!

In my car i already have a tial f38 thinking change it with the 44mm but i dont know is necesary or not.

Faisalm Mar 10, 2014 09:17 PM

If you are not having any issues with your wastegate like surging etc... then I wouldn't swap it out only because you're going to have to get an adapter plate for the vband on the 44mm and a tbolt clamp for the 44m etc..

If there's nothing wrong with it, leave it alone.

Evopower88 Mar 11, 2014 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by Faisalm (Post 11141223)
If you are not having any issues with your wastegate like surging etc... then I wouldn't swap it out only because you're going to have to get an adapter plate for the vband on the 44mm and a tbolt clamp for the 44m etc..

If there's nothing wrong with it, leave it alone.

Ok thanks, i will let it, i dont want to spend money isnt necessary

99gst_racer Mar 11, 2014 09:07 AM

The only issue you might have with your current gate is that it's common for the paper gasket to blow out where it's thin on the edges. A good solution for this is to run an SCE copper gasket (part number 4150).

But if you aren't having any issues with your current 38mm gate, then I agree with these other guys in that you should just let it be. A 38mm valve is definitely appropriately sized for the application though. If you ever decide to switch to a v-band gate for the sake of simplicity (or ability to clock), you could very well run the 38mm MSV. But I would recommend cutting off the 2-bolt flange and welding on the v-band flange instead of using one of the adapters.

Evopower88 Mar 11, 2014 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by 99gst_racer (Post 11141580)
The only issue you might have with your current gate is that it's common for the paper gasket to blow out where it's thin on the edges. A good solution for this is to run an SCE copper gasket (part number 4150).

But if you aren't having any issues with your current 38mm gate, then I agree with these other guys in that you should just let it be. A 38mm valve is definitely appropriately sized for the application though. If you ever decide to switch to a v-band gate for the sake of simplicity (or ability to clock), you could very well run the 38mm MSV. But I would recommend cutting off the 2-bolt flange and welding on the v-band flange instead of using one of the adapters.

Oh thanks for your opinion, i order new gasket today, i will change it. Why you recommend that? Will have problem if use the adapter?

I will run with this setup, maybe in a future will change the exhaust manifold with the turbo too.

99gst_racer Mar 12, 2014 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by Evopower88 (Post 11142172)
Why you recommend that? Will have problem if use the adapter?

IMO, one of the prime reasons for ditching an F38 for a v-banded gate is to also ditch the gasket. So if I were doing that, the last thing I would want is use an adapter that maintains a gasket.

Evopower88 Mar 12, 2014 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by 99gst_racer (Post 11142799)
IMO, one of the prime reasons for ditching an F38 for a v-banded gate is to also ditch the gasket. So if I were doing that, the last thing I would want is use an adapter that maintains a gasket.

Yes thats true.

Thanks for the help


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