Which Kinugawa Turbo for 2.0L Evo 9
 

Sup ya'll,

I'm after a Kinugawa turbo that'll be the least hassle to get installed and will give me the best possible power without sacraficing too much on response. Can someone please recommend one from the below with reasons why. I really want as much low end response as possible, but I wouldn't mind sacrificing some response for extra power.

http://shopping.kinugawaturbo.com/mitsubishievo9.aspx

My mods are:

2.0L Stock block
ARP Headstuds
GSC S2 Cams, springs and retainers
HKS EVC 5
Walbro 255
Aftermarket LICP
FIC 1050 injectors
Full exhaust, not sure of details but Catback is a RM-01A

FP Red Ball Bearing, one awesome turbo. When boost comes on, :)... Otherwise go with the FP Green, boost comes a little earlier & is great response... Not sure about kinugawa :P

look at my sig, I still have room for more power (500+ easy on the 25G). The 25G (Fp red equal) is a little laggy but makes great power Im on E85 btw.

I'll also be running E85. What's the spool and max power difference between the TD05/20G and the other 20g? Are you running a stock block with that much power?

stock blocks are generally OK at the 500whp mark, by OK that means many have been fine at those levels but there are the few who have had bad luck, its all in the tune my man.

In that case I'll stick with about 450HP. Would the 20g be able to pull that off with less lag or should I just get the 25G?

If I were you I would go with a FP turbo, they stand behind their products and they are proven to make the power

Stock blocks can take 600+ WHP without a problem... It's the torque that kills the stock internals... You'll want to stay under 400 ft/lbs to keep your stock block happy, which would require that you install a 3 port to control that torque curve.

Back to your topic, with E85 a 20g would be more than sufficient, I just don't understand why you're going with the Kinugawa turbo? Is it because of the low price?

If it's because of the price, then may I suggest looking for alternatives, such as the MAP EF2 or EF2.5 .

I mean, even the FP turbos such as the FP Green JB or FP Red JB are just a few hundred dollars more expensive than the Kinugawa turbos and the MAP / FP products have been proven countless times, which can't be said about the Kinugawa turbos with the mixed reviews you'll find on this forum.

At the end of the day it's up to you.

For how long can you run on a stock block with 600whp, not long in my opinion... Of course the less power you have, the life of the motor will last longer... It can also come down to the health of motor , maintenance, tune, etc...

I can show you many many many stock block evos with 500+whp that have been going for 4+ years now with thousands of miles on them.

But yes, maintain your engine properly and you shouldn't have any problems.

in all honesty mate i'd go with a FP based turbo . I have a kinugawa td06 and it has given me grief since the day i got it , it failed from the start and there for i have scrapped it . Don't let me put you off though im just telling you my experience with them .

I agree. I had the same idea with Kinugawa, but after lot of reading I've bought just Tomei. It costs about 1300 $ so it's also cheap

My turbo has been pretty solid so far, I have seen MAP turbos fail after a rebuild from MAP and FP turbos fail too(lots of threads here) but then again people have had bad luck with kinugawas. its a hit or miss, FP are about 1k more than the Kinugawa btw and if you choose the stainless steel turbine it becomes more expensive since you need more parts to make it work. Just have Tom tune your car and youre golden.

By going with Kinugawa you're going with a turbo that's been thrown together in comparison to FP, MAPerformance, CBRD, who have done extensive research and developement on turbine/compressor wheels and how they do/don't work well together.

Also, whatever your opinion of the their customer service, you get a knowledgeable person that can answer a question like this on the phone because they have a vested interest in this community, not so much with Kinugawa. Even the most poorly made turbo will run and feel good for some time, but these vendors have done more than just throw wheel combos together and made substandard hotsides that will inevitably fail. I would rather go with a used version of name brand turbo than gamble on a Kinugawa turbo that was made cheaply from the old specs (if you're lucky) of another company.

The FP HTA 71 without a hot side is on sale no core for under 600. That's a 450whp turbo all day on E85. Way better than Kinugawa hands down.