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blackline Sep 26, 2017 03:04 PM

Built Block recommendations
 
so I recently blew the block on my evo 8. Since I don’t have a good core I’m SOL on a couple grand.


Can can anyone recommend a good short block for daily and auto cross?

my current setup is S1 cams, 1000cc injectors, CRBD BBK full, 3in TBE, 70mm TB and Ported mani.

LetsGetThisDone Sep 28, 2017 01:36 PM

Would probably just put a 2.0L in it. Give English Racing a call.

Tuxevo Sep 28, 2017 04:48 PM

The 4g64 block is a little cheaper and more available. The added displacement would help with autocross as well.

4b11slayer Sep 28, 2017 07:01 PM

I dont think the 4g64 is more reliable then a 4g63. Anyhow.

You can check out boostin performance. Buschur. Curt brown. Theres a few reputable builders. But if it were my money id hit up buschur if its still the og buschur. Cause hes ritired or retiring.

4g63Moon Oct 3, 2017 09:46 PM

I would do a 2.3L with your set up. Torque will come into play and way more fun to drive as daily.

blackline Oct 4, 2017 08:23 AM

Thanks!!

ended up picking up a new MAP 2.0 Short block for a good price locally.
Wiseco 85.5MM
9.0:1 HD Pistons
Manley I Beam Turbo Tuff Rods
OEM Uncut crank
ARP Main Studs
ACL Bearings

2winscroll Oct 12, 2017 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by 4b11slayer (Post 11775028)
I dont think the 4g64 is more reliable then a 4g63. Anyhow.

You can check out boostin performance. Buschur. Curt brown. Theres a few reputable builders. But if it were my money id hit up buschur if its still the og buschur. Cause hes ritired or retiring.

You don't think....what's that a guess? Or statement?

Biggiesacks Oct 12, 2017 07:39 AM

its a pretty commonly known thing that the 4g64 has head sealing issues.

LetsGetThisDone Oct 12, 2017 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by blackline (Post 11776056)
Thanks!!

ended up picking up a new MAP 2.0 Short block for a good price locally.
Wiseco 85.5MM
9.0:1 HD Pistons
Manley I Beam Turbo Tuff Rods
OEM Uncut crank
ARP Main Studs
ACL Bearings

That sucks. Good luck.

2winscroll Oct 12, 2017 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by Biggiesacks (Post 11777866)
its a pretty commonly known thing that the 4g64 has head sealing issues.

It's pretty commonly known that 4G64 has stronger cylinder bores and unshrouds the valves for better breathing. Head sealing issues are easily resolved with o-ringing the block.

Question was directed towards the poster.

2winscroll Oct 12, 2017 09:39 AM

What I'm getting at is usually when someone says something is superior/inferior, they give a reason as to why it is so. Not "I think", or "because I say so".

LetsGetThisDone Oct 12, 2017 09:41 AM

4g64 built correctly run fine. The English Racing 2.4LR build making ~830whp with a 6466 that is sitting in my shop right now (as well as plenty of other 2.4's they've built), and lots of the results TSComp posts prove that. 4g64 head gasket issues are a thing of the past, when guys were experimenting with it and figuring it out.

Biggiesacks Oct 12, 2017 10:46 AM

Yah of course there are things you can do to increase the reliability of the 4g64, but once you start modifying the block/head then your into apples and oranges territory.

Also yah, no replacement for displacement, airflow and all, but that doesn't really have much to do with reliability.

LetsGetThisDone Oct 12, 2017 11:43 AM

My point of the results is that they also stay together. So it has a lot to do with reliability.


It's not apples/oranges. You need to o-ring the head to make it live. It's that simple.

Teal2nnr Oct 12, 2017 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone (Post 11777895)
That sucks. Good luck.

Whats wrong with an MAP short block? Im currently running one assembled by them.....


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