I dont drive like tommi makinen and probably never will......but ayc will help you out when youre drunk and think youre tommi makinen......okok maybe it wont help that much ..but...WHAT I WAS SAYING when i started that last forum to debate ayc/acd was that at least, AT LEAST, mitsu should give the acd/ayc as an option. Look,,,,, You guys in the states, have missed out for so long,,,,,and if I stay in Canada im goin to be ****ed as well..im so worried,,,i cant drive an evo when i know my cousins evos are loaded with everything....i dunno maybe im nuerotic like that,,,but ill just be feeling like something is missing,,,,especially after i drove the full jspecs........But hey...Should it at least be an option???????????????
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I think we can all agree that'd be nice.

 

Okay, having come back to the argument, let me say this:

Someone pointed out that more RSs than GSRs were sold. I don't think this has as much to do with the presence/absence of the ACD/AYC, but more to do with people wanting an EVO VII for less cash. I mean, it's typical for the lower package of whatever model to sell more, because, guess what? It's more affordable.

Someone said that they didn't believe the AYC contributed to the EVO VII's overall success very much. I'd agree to that. However, I do believe that the ACD DID contribute majorly to the success of the EVO VII as a street performer, which is what most people use for comparison tests, not the kind of vehicles used for professional racing, where weight vs. performance is the name of the game. So, bringing up competition models really isn't even relevant to the conversation at hand, due to the fact that those cars couldn't be more different from the street versions, due to the different purposes of those cars.

True, ACD/AYC may not be for everyone, but it should be an option.

 

Yes, and an option I'd be willing to pay an addtl. 5k for, no prob.

 

It should have ACD/AYC, most german and japanese cars now have some form of stability control and to market it with these devices will make it look high-tech and not just a turbo 4WD sedan. halo effect on the lesser RS models.

 

Geez, you'd pay 5000+ for an electronic gizmo that is a hassle to maintain and would likely need repaired after some time driving??
Remember, the reason is likely not bringing it yet is because it would never survive the US duty cycle..it would be a warranty nightmare is what I was told by a person in

 

This is something I've been thinking a lot about lately. I certainly don't want to send my car to get tuned up repeatedly. has some work to do to prove they are putting out a quality product. The last thing they need is public relations nightmare with more recalls. That said, If they take a $5000 option out of the car and the price remains unchanged - where did the money go into?

 

Another excellent point.

Now, let me pose this question. The ACD serves a very similar function as the 4motion system offered by Volkswagon. Why does this not pose the warranty nightmare that everyone points to with the Mitsu ACD?

 

well, to start off, the VW doesn't have 270 plus hp's to deal with. People that drive VW's with awd leave them stock. Mitsu has to give us a car knowing very well that power upgrades will most definetely be done, and will be able to withstand the punishment. In an awd setup there is no give anywhere, unlike a rear or front wheel drive car were the tires will spin therefore releasing some of the drivetrain shock. I feel that Mitsu will not let us down-they can't. This car will satisfy our needs, be it with acd, ayc or not. In my experience as an auto tech I have yet to experience a smooth or nearly invisible electronically controlled awd system. As soon as the sensors pick up an imbalance of wheel speeds info is then sent to a module that in turn will give or release more power front or rear. I dont know how the EVO setup is like, but this type of drivetrain controls take a second or 2 to react accordingly. This is sometimes an abrupt hit of torque that at 280 hp may be just fine, but at 400 plus may be a time bomb under that car. This is were a total mechanical set-up is more predictable and reliable. Either way I will be waiting.
p.s. hope I didnt offend anyone with my suggestions or opinions, I just base them on my personal and professional experiences. Sorry if I did.

 

If it were in reality an option being offered by Mitsubishi that I could spend 5k on, then it would also be something covered by an extended warranty and so yes, I would spend the money. If they're not gonna cover it, it won't be an option, so either way, either I don't have it and so don't need to spend the money to maintain it, or I do have it and it's covered. I would also attribute just slightly more to these systems than being mere electronic gizmos. I've obvioulsy read many of your previous posts so I already know your viewpoint on these systems (which I respect), and while I love for everybody to have their opinions, I just don't share this particular one. I want these systems (ACD primarily); even if it has to be at the cost of some reliability. You might consider that wasteful, but in the end, it's my money to waste .

 

What about the 4Motion, W8 Passat? That has 270+ hp, and it's a heavy bastard.

And I doubt that Mitsu is worried about warranty issues with tuners.

 

Just to let you know...you would be the one paying for the regular maintenence it would need. Just like you either pay to have your oil changed or do it yourself. Yes, repairs would be covered under warranty, but you would start eating the cost after 3yr/36k.

 

Well yes, the regular maintenence is a given (sorry, worded wrong in my last post); I'm more talking along the lines of repairs, and I'm presuming Mitsu will offer an extended warranty beyond the standard warranty that can be purchased. If not, I'd still be willing to take my chances. If it is such a huge liability, I doubt it will be an option (which may prove to be true). If it does make it's way to option status or SE status, then I would imagine it to be at least marginally more dependable then made out to be. But really, whatever the case, I'll be happy. It's just given the choice of with or without, I'd prefer with.

 

Amm, one question, ppl,,where do you keep getting all these ideas about high maintainance . These systems never gave me any big trouble. We have the evolution 7 for almost two years now and the acd/ayc never gave any trouble, only the abs and the clutch system. Only once, did I ever have trouble with an Ayc unit, and thats on the makinen. When it goes, it makes all these strange noises, and the car starts wobbling and stuff.. That why alot of people ( including my dad) disconnected ayc, because if it goes at the wrong time, it could be bad.. But thats rarely..And the one in the 7 doesnt give any trouble...The abs light started coming on in about 3 mnths though :the sensor is bad.....THE ONE THING THAT FAILED IN THE 7 SERIOUSLY WAS THE CLUTCH

 

People have this half-cocked notion that once it comes overseas that American drivers will throw at it stuff that it can't handle, which, I think is silly in a way, unless you're talking *****-happy skill-less drivers.