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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 04:42 PM
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Evo Quality

I've noticed it in this forum, usually the problems people are having are similar and it's usually caused by the owner.

I think evo's a good car. Looks like it's not having any major engine problems or defective tranny problems other than the syncros, (which is common problem in jap cars, ).

Overall, other than little annoyance, the car is fairely solid in where it counts.

If you constrain yourself here and there, I think this car could last a while.

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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 06:54 PM
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Yeh you are right, when I was bored one night I decided to see how much stuff I could unsolder in my stock ECU before the car wouldn't start anymore. And that's when I started to get my PO300 problem.

Idiot...
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 07:01 PM
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A little sensitive aren't we? No reason for a personal attack. I think that what he is saying is quite reasonable. Many failures are caused by abuse.

I don’t think he was implying that people were soldering on their CPU and causing problems. If you actually did, then I agree -- you are an idiot.
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 07:12 PM
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where is the soldering part? and what the hell is wrong with "stockfornow"? He didn't get enough hug from mom growing up or something? lol

Anyway, if you're bored, do the bolsten light mod, it's fun and take up time.

misfire is a problem but it's really not that big of a deal. I got the dealer flash and it all went away.

Half of the time, you're not even misfiring when you get that code, it's the ECU being too sensitive.
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 07:17 PM
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I think he might have been calling himself an idiot for doing that, but i dont know for sure.
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by plokivos
I think evo's a good car.
Nod.

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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 08:05 PM
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I enjoy the car a lot, I just wish Mitsubishi stood behind their product a little better.
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 12:48 AM
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yeh, me too. But considering the facts that there's more shlt in this car then most cars out there, the car's made fairely well.
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 06:07 AM
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21,000 miles and no problems what-so-ever.. With PLENTY of mods to go with it...
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 07:03 AM
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The car is made pretty solid. I too believe that many problems are caused by abuse (ie. clutch drops, donuts, etc.) or inexperienced drivers not realizing what they are doing wrong. It still surprises me when someone comes on here and says they have an Evo and ask simple questions about how to drive a stick. The majority of people on here have had no problems with the drivetrain. I am not saying that anyone is wrong for buying the Evo I am just saying that it is more expensive to learn to drive an Evo than say a Civic. Considering the percentage of owners who have modded there Evo's power output I think they have held up pretty well.
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 03:40 PM
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Well...I guess my attempt at sarcasm went over some of your heads. The point I failed to maike it seems, is that my ECU threw the PO300 code even though it was untouched by me, as in NOT MY FAULT.

I admit calling him an idiot was over the top, I apologize for that.

But at the same time, all any of you have to do is hit the search function for a half hour and see that the EVO is far from trouble free.

Try a search on the following, and see if you don't at least see that there may be at best a weakness and at worst a defect in the following parts/systems.

Clutch
PO300 / misfire / random misfire
Brake shuddering/warped rotors
Front end clunk
Warranty Void thread(includes many stories)
Synchros (recalled)
Transfer case
Gear grinding
Rattles
PO*** (some are a result of test pipes etc.)
Paint chipping/peeling problems
I am sure I probably forgot a couple too...

I am glad the majority of EVO owners don't have problems, but the car has far more issues than average as far as quality goes. If you deny this after doing even a pittance of research you may in fact be an idiot.

The car was advertised to be a performance car and should be able to handle spirited driving. My particular car wasn't even holding up to moderate daily driving. And yes I am in fact bitter, when it's working the EVO can't be touched performance wise, and you can drive it all year with winter tires! Too bad it's built like crap and Mitsu couldn't care less...

And because of all this the resale value is dropping like a rock too, just do a little research there too, you will see what I mean.

Good day sirs....
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 05:19 PM
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p0300 is really the only thing that people are having problems with.

After the dealer Flash, i haven't gotten one in 3000+ miles in various speeds. Some people don't get dealer flash because you can't get aftermarket flashed or piggy back, but other than that, Syncro problems are the only problems people are having in normal driving.

Given that I drive the hell out of my car and I complaint about the transfer case engineering and transfer case, but the problem really come with abuse and that's the bottom line.

It's a cheap paint (one process clear coat and paint mixed sprayed) to save money, syncros are always a problem on any japanese car, even honda, so is rattle.

This is why people say the fit and finish is always crappy on jap cars, because they are and they use thinner plastic and cheaper grade plastic on the car to save money.

Ultimately, if the car uses materials like AUDI and BMW, then the price of the car will be a lot more than what it is now.

Transfer case wont die if you keep using the stock clutch and stock cluch wont die if you know how to launch right. Of course we're not perfect and that's why we take risks to mod our cars.

Warranty void is something to do with mitsubishi company policy and the individual dealerships and really not the car.

If you find the right dealership, they'll service your car despite the aftermarket mods.

I've done a lot of search here and went through hell trying to fix my car not too long ago.

Really, i'm sorry if you're having a horrid time with your car, but if you've done a lot of search on this forum, most issue as a stock car isn't that serious. Dealers suck *** 100% and I agree with you on that, but the car is good.

A lot of people don't understand the fact that there is a difference between how they make a normal speed sedan (camry and accord) and a car thats made to perform . A lot more wear is there and a lot more problems gonna happen. I think that's the price of having a $30,000 super car vs $100,000 super car.

Considering the resale market value for japanese bargain cars, Evo is holding up their value pretty good. I don't like the fact that you're making it look like I'm ignorant while all these time you're thinking how these threads are trying to make you think or feel, just like a tool. you have a good day too.

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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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quality and warranty suck . . . .
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 08:28 PM
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I have purchased 4 Mitsus since "00". The engineering is very good on the motors. They are as good as any I have seen or owned from Chevy, Ford, Chrysler or BMW. The electronics are not high quaility (I worked for HP in the 70s when we produced some of the worlds finest electroinc test instruments). The fit on the body parts is very good but the paint is not the best. Little things here and there are annoying but when you consider the cost of the vehicles they are about average. The Evo is in a class by it's self. In modified form it it one of the world's fastests cars. Just take a peek at this months Car and Driver for proof. I have owned a few highly tuned cars and the Evo is not at all bad mannered. If the company survives I might buy another one in about five years. BTW the two I dumped were Eclipse GTs.. very dissapointing cars performance wise.
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 10:14 PM
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IMO Mitsu seems to be stereotyping everyone who buys an EVO. It's common for new car to have bugs but, to deny warranty work and yet claim to have the best backed cars in America is simply insane. Do we all have to be old farts in order for a car company to fix their own flawed products simply because of the type of car?

I agree that there are many who dog their cars as soon as they get them but, there are many of us who are very responible and baby our rides. Where's the justice?

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