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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Kayaalp
Hi Matt,

The Evo's ABS sucks anyway. It's WAY too aggressive and comes on all the time. I wish I could disable it on my car. It's a major pain in the *** in the snow and on the track. I guess it might be helpful in the rain...but I'm not convinced.

Anyway, my advice would be to buy the RS and set aside a couple of hundred bucks to sign up for a few BMW CCA car control clinics ("skid schools") and track events. Once you learn how to drive properly (i.e., threshoild brake and brake in a straight line) you'll never miss ABS.

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A performance driving school is definately going to happen whether I get the GSR or RS. I honestly feel like I lack the experience needed to drive an Evo due to my lack of driver experience and age, so some drivng school/or car control clinic are my first mods.
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Streetrcrm3
A performance driving school is definately going to happen whether I get the GSR or RS. I honestly feel like I lack the experience needed to drive an Evo due to my lack of driver experience and age, so some drivng school/or car control clinic are my first mods.
That's good to hear. The first step to becoming a better driver is to realize you have more to learn. It's responsibilty like this that makes me proud to be a member of this community.

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I think the '05 Evo RS has ACD now too though, doesn't it?
Right you are. Then again, the last time I saw it discussed the '05s weren't out yet.

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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 12:03 AM
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ABS equipped car is cheaper in insurance. BTW, you can find an '04 at a dealership brand new for the same price as a new '05 RS. They are probably trying to get rid of some '04's for cheap :P
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Kayaalp
Hi Matt,
Anyway, my advice would be to buy the RS and set aside a couple of hundred bucks to sign up for a few BMW CCA car control clinics ("skid schools") and track events. Once you learn how to drive properly (i.e., threshoild brake and brake in a straight line) you'll never miss ABS.
Emre
The FASTEST way to drive a nose-heavy car like an EVO is to use Trail Braking.

If you can manage to get your car to the edge of it's friction circle while trail braking, your inside rear wheel will almost certainly lift. When this happens, non-ABS cars reveal their real superiority over ABS equipped cars because ABS is fooled into thinking that there is no traction and therefore it won't apply braking preassure.

The caveat is that trail braking can only be performed effectively and safely by skilled drivers and even then at low/medium speed corners (unless of course your last name is Schumacher).

At the BMW/CCA schools where I instruct, we never teach trail braking unless we are very confident in the student's ability to not spin the car.
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 11:56 AM
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Right you are. Then again, the last time I saw it discussed the '05s weren't out yet.
I smell a new thread idea.

Originally Posted by YellowFever
ABS equipped car is cheaper in insurance. BTW, you can find an '04 at a dealership brand new for the same price as a new '05 RS. They are probably trying to get rid of some '04's for cheap :P
I wouldn't buy an '05 GSR even it was the same price. I personally like how the RS looks and how it's lighter. The only thing I wish it had was a stereo system, but I've heard the sound system Mitsu puts in their Evos is poor so maybe it's just as well that I design the system myself.
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Steiner
I smell a new thread idea.


I wouldn't buy an '05 GSR even it was the same price. I personally like how the RS looks and how it's lighter. The only thing I wish it had was a stereo system, but I've heard the sound system Mitsu puts in their Evos is poor so maybe it's just as well that I design the system myself.
Well that's pretty easy to fix yourself. Just got to best buy and get a head unit and 4 speakers. Everything is prewired, so all you have to do is pop them in and enjoy.

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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 01:10 PM
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Well that's pretty easy to fix yourself. Just got to best buy and get a head unit and 4 speakers. Everything is prewired, so all you have to do is pop them in and enjoy.

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I've already got it all planned out. I'm thinking a Pioneer deck with 6 speakers and this little bad boy plugged into the auxilory input instead of a CD changer...

http://www.ssiamerica.com/video/ncj1.wmv



http://ssiamerica.com/products/neo35/
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 02:52 PM
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I have arleady run 7 track days in my 2-month-old '04 EVO RS. I have never noticed any problem without ABS, and you tend to brake HARD on the racetrack, especially when coming off a long straight into a hard turn.
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