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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 01:28 PM
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Depends on how you define performance. Any wing will hurt your 0 to 60 and quarter mile times because of the drag it creates. This is one reason the RS is faster than both the EVO and the MR.
The RS is quicker to 60 mph because it has the same engine but WEIGHS less than the MR and GSR.

I spent a long time comparing the EVO and STi, test drove each one twice, went on both internet boards to ask questions, spoke to owners at racetracks, etc. etc. I decided on the EVO and have had no second thoughts.

And yes, the STi wing and scoop did shake during a test drive when I never got over 60 mph.
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 09:31 AM
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How consistent and effective do you think the downforce produced by the STi wing is when it's bouncing up and down?
The upper portion of the wing is not what creates the downforce on the STi. The STi wing is a dual plane the actual tilted portion is flush against the trunk which is what produces the downforce. The upper part is basically just a splitter/looks.

And what I meant was that STi owners that want a carbon fiber wing over the STi wing are ricers not people that just want a wing period.


how do you know most STi owners don't like the sound of the turbo spooling up or the low end growl from an aftermarket exhaust or the sound of a bov? I don't think you did any research or collected any facts .... Most STi owner in my area have modded their cars and love the sounds they make ..... food for thought
Any your friends that put a BoV on an STi running boost under 20psi is a ricer. There is nothing wrong with exhaust, all I was talking about was the mods some STi owners do just to "hear" noises, like BoVs, which have been proven to do nothing performance wise.

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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 02:12 PM
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I drove both and got the Evo. It just drove better and in the twisties, it's no comparison.
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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the seats are about the same to me, you can hear the turbo spool also. and i dont really wana hear it spool i could careless. i chose the sti because mistsu isnt my favrite brand. and the iron block idea is just stupid on a car in 2005. i dont wana buy a car that's technoligy is from 1989. but its still a really good car and i respect evos as much as i do sti's after all we all love cars.
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by nasti
The upper portion of the wing is not what creates the downforce on the STi. The STi wing is a dual plane the actual tilted portion is flush against the trunk which is what produces the downforce. The upper part is basically just a splitter/looks.

And what I meant was that STi owners that want a carbon fiber wing over the STi wing are ricers not people that just want a wing period.



Any your friends that put a BoV on an STi running boost under 20psi is a ricer. There is nothing wrong with exhaust, all I was talking about was the mods some STi owners do just to "hear" noises, like BoVs, which have been proven to do nothing performance wise.
So people who want a carbon fiber wing (or even a bov) are ricers but it is ok for the STI to have a huge wing that does nothing and is just there for looks?

Actually from what I have read both parts of the dual plane spoiler are supposed to create downforce. It is a way to get more downforce from a smaller spoiler. The WRC Group N rules define how big a rear wing can be so then each manufacturer gets as much downforce as they need while keeping to the size restrictions. That is why Mitsubishi went to a dual plane spoiler on the Evolution VI to get more downforce the the V but make it smaller to fit the new regulations.

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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 08:56 PM
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I agree with blueblurSTI, but with proper spelling and grammar.

They're both pretty awesome cars.

As for the other STI guy that posted on here with the "BOV's are for ricers, not real STI drivers"... I don't think I've come across many subies that DIDN'T have loud BOVs.

I don't think liking the whine of a turbo spooling makes you a ricer fanboy any more than liking the burble of a V-8 makes you an inbred redneck, or liking the growl of an Italian exotic makes you an elitist snob.

This thread started out with some really good, objective info - can we get back to that?
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueBlurSTi
i chose the sti because mistsu isnt my favrite brand.
Strange that you would be on this site then? Not saying that you're not welcome but I thought there would be other sites you would like better.

Originally Posted by BlueBlurSTi
and the iron block idea is just stupid on a car in 2005. i dont wana buy a car that's technoligy is from 1989.
Does it really matter what the block is made of? As long as the car performs as good as it's competitors (which the Evo does) I don't see how it is a problem. Can you even tell it is an iron block when you drive it? And the car as a whole is no heavier than a WRX STI. Also the iron block is very strong and cand handle big boost and big power. I don't really see how it is a problem.

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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 09:36 PM
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The wing will not hurt your 1/4 time at all unless you are trapping at very high speeds. There is alot more drag in other places on both cars that will affect times than a thin piece of plastic... comeon now... reminds me of people in 16 second cars folding in their mirrors at the track.......
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by troutfishin02
I agree with blueblurSTI, but with proper spelling and grammar.

They're both pretty awesome cars.

As for the other STI guy that posted on here with the "BOV's are for ricers, not real STI drivers"... I don't think I've come across many subies that DIDN'T have loud BOVs.

I don't think liking the whine of a turbo spooling makes you a ricer fanboy any more than liking the burble of a V-8 makes you an inbred redneck, or liking the growl of an Italian exotic makes you an elitist snob.

This thread started out with some really good, objective info - can we get back to that?
ignore nasti, he has a major inferiority complex. also, your comment about agreeing with blueburSTI, but with proper spelling... lmao
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 05:23 AM
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As for the other STI guy that posted on here with the "BOV's are for ricers, not real STI drivers"... I don't think I've come across many subies that DIDN'T have loud BOVs.
Maybe on a regular WRX. Trust me, go do a search on the imprezawrxsti.com forum on BoVs, and see how bad people get flamed for posting "what BoV is best?" It does nothing but give you a sound, and others even claim you lose a few hp and get worse gas mileage. So if you consider doing a mod for sound while losing power and gas mileage and that isn't rice? then what is ?

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