Do you think the dealer will have an oil filter for this car for the first oil change? is a OEM filter of higher quality than say Fram?

 

i've owned 3 hondas in the past, and i have always heard that the OEM filter is the best choice, that way there is nothing a dealer can say if something goes wrong... I'm no expert but i will always say to stick with the OEM

 

I've always heard reg fram are crap ( article on the net somewhere about this ) Bosch have always treated me very well and are supposed to be constructed very well.

 

You really want to use OEM or oil filters. Other filters on cars don't ever seem to seal properly, where the filter meets the engine block.

 

Thanks guy's....this is what I heard elsewhere.....fireball Do you have filters or any service parts in your dealership yet?.....I do a lot of miles I will have mine broke in in a matter of days!....do you think I can use the filter from the DSM GSX 4G63? or do you think the evo will be a higher capacity filter.I looked at the filter in wal-mart for the GSX and it looks very small...any thoughts?

 

I'm pretty sure they're the same. And I'd bet that we have them in stock. All the accessory parts should show up today too.

 

I have always used OEM filters - they may cost a bit more, and are sometimes more difficult to buy, but to me it's worth the extra expense for the added insurance.

 

My service guy at says that their filters can withstand a lot more psi than aftermarkets can and that engines create a lot of psi upon start up. I've never heard of anyone's filter blowing off or the filter medium imploding upon start up but I'd bet it wouldn't be pretty.

 

Only use this filter MD356000. It is the one for the outlander also. But ask for it by part no. since there is also a universal 4 cylinder filter that they can use on the outlander.

There also should be a crush ring for the drain plug included. I bought mine at Irvine and it is less than $6 with the ring.

Erik

 

OEM filters are usually the best choice, if anything were to go wrong with it will fix everything, no questions asked.

Besides, they ususally don't cost any more than an equivalent high quality filter from an aftermarket manufacturer.

 

For security and peace of mind, OEM certainly seems hard to beat. You're certainly covered on any warranty issue. Is it the best filter out there bar none in terms of actual performance? That could be open to some debate for sure, but even then I think you get to the point where you start a pound worth of discussion over differences measurable in pennies. With OEM and regular oil changes according to the manual, the engine/turbo will most likely last longer than the rest of the car.

I think the key elements here are the warning about the burst strength rating of the filter on startup and the bypass filter rating (psi). The burst strength issue applies especially to people who live in cold climates / winter conditions or those that choose to run a heavier / higher viscosity of oil. The higher the viscosity of the oil when cold, combined with the resistance to flow that any filter presents, the higher the pressure spike you get when you start the engine. So if the metal casing of the oil filter is thin, it may immediately crack or start ballooning later on from metal fatigue - it may crack later, it may not. This is where filters from Mobil make their claim to fame since they are among the thickest casings / highest burst strengths out there. If you doubt it, go out to autozone and pick up an M1-110 in one hand, feel the heft of it, and in the other hand pick up an OEM or whatever your favorite flavor of filter is .

The bypass valve opening pressure rating for the filter is important since the valve determines how often and to what degree the oil flow can "bypass" the filtering element and send unfiltered oil to the engine. The valve doesn't operate in a complete on or off fashion, but under high rpm (say 5k), the potential for the filter to operate in bypass mode is pretty high - unless the OEM spec on the filter calls for a very high bypass pressure rating to ensure less bypass operation for all those high revving (broken in hopefully ) Evo's, it might be something to keep on your mind when thinking about an oil filter. This is where the issue of oversize filters can help a bit since using a larger size than OEM provides a bit less resistance to oil flow and thus reduces the potential to operate in bypass mode.

For those with a major excess of free time on their hands, or those who are simply mental about oil and oil filtration (I kind of fall into this camp!), it'd be a neat experiment to take the OEM part spec'd by , cut it open around the base and check for things like metal endcaps on the filtering element inside, # of pleats, etc.

Enjoy those Evo's and good luck...I'm jealous as hell!

DF

 

It has been done by Heave Ho Six on MLR

'Correct' oil filter, my findings

The thought of one leaking alone turned me off of other filters.

Erik

 

Thanks for the link. Interesting reading material.

DF

 

Thanks for the info....most informative.....I am not taking any chances....I am having a filter shipped from the UK that is for an Evo 7......it is coming with my 7 tail lights

 

Limey-
The MD356000 filter is available here for around $6 in the UK it is $12. I talked to Coordsport and the MD356000 filter is the only recommended filter. It is the same filter that my VII came with. Get the filter here it is cheaper.

Erik