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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 10:05 AM
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My opinion my not be fair because I will never buy a two wheel drive car again.
The 1.8 quattro is the only car that is close to the Evo and STI for the money. It's not quite the performer but it is very high quality inside and out. No subaru or Mitsubishi can compare with the quality. With little modification it can scream.


Almost every car will have an AWD option eventually.

My 2 cents.
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 10:07 AM
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Originally posted by celicancer
What makes the Evo so incredibly fast? I know the turbocharger set at 19 psi or whatever plays a significant part, but is that it? i know that the OZ rally's aren't very quick factory but i don't see how a turbo by itself could make it that much faster
Well they are completely different cars really. The Evolution looks like a lancer but shares few parts. It is not anything like a turbo kit and stiifer springs

Getting a US lancer to perform overall like a Evolution would be expensive enough not to make economic sense.

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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by skibum

Almost every car will have an AWD option eventually.
A very slight chance that AWD option would be available for all FWD commuters, but there is no way people around the world are ready to give up their RWD sports cars.
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 12:18 PM
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i dont think RWD will ever be given up unless some new completely differnet never seen before and BETTER drivetrain comes up in the future...
just look at racing, RWD is seen as i dunno how to describe but...."hardcore"? or "pure"?
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 12:39 PM
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rwd, awd, fwd will always be around. they each have different purposes (rwd: sports cars and some trucks, awd: what else would the evo use? fwd: economical choice for daily use), so i can't imagine any of them ever disappearing.

as for the best car...the evo is the best car for people in this forum.
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by JohnMemorialHS


A very slight chance that AWD option would be available for all FWD commuters, but there is no way people around the world are ready to give up their RWD sports cars.
How are things in Madison? I lived there for most of my life. Still miss it.

There is a general trend away from AWD cars. Some manufacturers are substituting PSM, yaw control (nothing to do with AYC on JDM Evos) or stability control.

With the older Group A WRC rules you needed to make a good performance AWD road car and sell it to compete. With the World Rally Class you don’t have too. So we have Peugeot, Citroen and Ford competing with no AWD road cars to speak of.

Sadly performance AWD road cars worldwide are going away. The Evos and the WRX STi are the last hold outs from a great line of rally specials. Get them while you can.

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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 01:29 PM
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How are things in Madison? I lived there for most of my life. Still miss it.Erik
Well as of right now, snow is coming down pretty hard, nothing but snow on the ground.
not many AWD sports cars were created in the first place. Aside from the Evo and WRX, there were 3000GT VR4, the skyline which wasn't available in the states, and if you can even count these : Eclipse GSX and Talon Tsi AWD. There're many AWD vehicles in Europe, and a lot of them are sporty, I think here in the U.S., people don't think AWD as fun to drive, they think of it as a safety option (Thanks to Subaru wagons lol), and that is one of the reason why we don't see many AWD sports cars here.
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 01:33 PM
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for the moment i dun think there's ani car out there with the same amt of performance available stock with this price tag range....
This is the most true statement I have head in a long time, but wont be ture as soon as the STi is released to us, and tell me how much you love mitsubishi with 7,000 markup on tha EVO

STi----------------------------------------------------EVO
Boxer flat 4---------------------------Not as boost friendly Inline 4
2.5L (Less Boost needed)-----------------------2.0 L
Not honda but reliable---------Most unreliable japanese car company

face the fact's the STi will be WAY better all around
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 02:05 PM
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Doug E's post is probably one of the least biased post, ever
But anyways, when comparin the Sti and Evo, there's no one better than the other, they're equally matched. 2.5 L superior to 2 Litre? No, there're about 100 cars out there with displacement more than the Evo or Sti, displacement doesn't really mean all that much. Boxer flat 4 and inline 4, there's really no clear way to determine which one is more boost friendly, personally I think they're both boost friendly. Sti reliable, and Evo is not because it's made by Mitsubishi? I dobut it, they're both rather reliable as performance sedan goes. The fact is that Sti is not all around better than Evo, and Evo is not all around better than Sti, they're equally matched, while Evo has better performance stats
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 02:14 PM
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STi----------------------------------------------------EVO
Not honda but reliable---------Most unreliable japanese car company

please dont call the usdm sti reliable till its been driven for awhile, and to pick on the company and not the car does not prove anything. lets just see who has the least problems (remember that the evo is made in japan and not on US soil).
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by JohnMemorialHS
while Evo has better performance stats
Right...the stats on the US STi aren't out yet. We'll just have wait and see.

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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 03:04 PM
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please dont call the usdm sti reliable till its been driven for awhile, and to pick on the company and not the car does not prove anything. lets just see who has the least problems (remember that the evo is made in japan and not on US soil).
Actually you dont know much because Subaru is made ENTIRELY in Japan, but it is a proven fact that Mitsu is the most unreliable Japanese car sompany, think about it MAZDA got better reliability than Mitsubishi
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by fishsauce


please dont call the usdm sti reliable till its been driven for awhile, and to pick on the company and not the car does not prove anything. lets just see who has the least problems (remember that the evo is made in japan and not on US soil).


Ya actually lets pick on the car manufacturer, Mitsubishi has had poor reliability in the past with A LOT of cars, so im not expecting this one to be any different, oh and with the US STi having more displacement it will probbably be running less boost, so it will more than likely be more reliable.


More reliable engine with lest boost= Last a long time

Less reliable engine with more boost= Break very easily
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 03:32 PM
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I am not saying rwd or fwd will vanish.

I also said "almost" every car will have an awd "option" eventually.

AWD awareness and appreciation is getting greater every year.

Please read carefully
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 04:15 PM
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dUgEfrESh = Scooby lurker.

When you actually have an STi on American soil and they start testing it in comparison to the Evo then you can say which is better. Until then smart guy keep your biased opinions to yourself. Oh, and learn how to spell and speak in complete sentences. Then maybe, MAYBE, you can say someone else isn't that smart. A little too much has numbed your mind a little.



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