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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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could you run it by rpm instead of speed? the 06' has a different gear ratio... showing mph isnt really a fair comparison to show the differences in curves.
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 02:59 PM
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Air temp, actual quality of gas, number of miles on the motor at the time of dyno/drag race and of course the famous Mitsubishi variation in hp from car to car will all contribute to differences in measured power and 1/4 miles. This car in different environments is not standardized enough to make direct comparisons between dyno graphs and 1/4 mile times from two different cars.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 12:18 AM
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i dont think that switzer has anything to gain by modifying a dyno for the evo IX. i understand that what they dyno'd is what they dyno'd. i just wanted to see if the hp fell after 5k or so rpm like the 03/04 VIII's do. maybe because it doesnt thats why they were able to have higher trap speeds.
i also understand that everyone is skeptical because it had a tbe but again what does switzer have to prove by saying that it only made 1awhp and was not significant. they were just posting their numbers!
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 05:35 AM
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Sweet mph Tym....put the stock exhaust back on and bring it down tuesday and me or brian will run the car...if the clutch doesn't slip too much we will do a 12 something at 106mph stock...
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 06:40 AM
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This thread is contrary to D. Buschur's findings. Anyone care to take a stab at why?
I don't know what kind of testing DB's done on the MIVEC, he only states that:
I don't know why you would want to add the MIVEC to an older engine. We did some dyno testing and I don't see any gains. If anything I think switching the MIVEC over to the older stuff is going to be more common.
Doesn't really go into specifics like SPI does, so I wouldn't take that as concrete proof of anything.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 4G63>OOOO
I don't know what kind of testing DB's done on the MIVEC, he only states that:


Doesn't really go into specifics like SPI does, so I wouldn't take that as concrete proof of anything.
Huh? He dyno'd 2 separate Evo IX's and compared them to an 05...
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 08:59 AM
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I found this quote on Buschur's thread regarding the EVO 9:

David Buschur:
The power numbers I would have loved to change. Problem is on the dyno the cars are making the same power as the EVO8's. If I bumped it it would be more for marketing than truth. Not something I am willing to do.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Huh? He dyno'd 2 separate Evo IX's and compared them to an 05...

it all adds up to me warrtalon, you went 103mph with 248awhp on your car and this car went 106mph with 275 awhp. There is no conspiracy here... the dyno is right and the car is strong.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 09:33 AM
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275whp stock? ...nice
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by evodave
it all adds up to me warrtalon, you went 103mph with 248awhp on your car and this car went 106mph with 275 awhp. There is no conspiracy here... the dyno is right and the car is strong.
I went 104 stock (93oct) and 107.5 with a cat-back (93oct). I also went 111 on a cat-back with a mix of 104/93. This car went 106.1 with a cat-back and 93oct. It's definitely strong, but 275whp stock doesn't sound right. It should have been run without the cat-back. I know I gained a significant amount with mine...
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ERIC@SPI
By the way, doesn't HKS use a Dynojet?? I have been to several races and the leading tuners all use Dynojet. I wonder why this is?? Maybe because they are the best in the business. I am sure since AMS just bought the exact same dynojet that we have they will be told that they photoshoped their graphs and they are exagerated as well
I would think Dynojets are more popular because they are cheaper than the competition???
1st of all they don't connect the forward and rear rollers drums like the competition, thus an AWD car can have the front and rear wheels spinning at different speed which can kill the center diff.
2nd the numbers are always inflated compared to the Mustang AWD dyno and the Dynodynamics AWD dyno which seem to be closer to each other.
But as always any dyno can be used to create a baseline and show improvement on parts added to the car .... I guess a catback doesn't make that much difference on the EVO 9 ... any chance you can tell us what brand catback it was?
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
I went 104 stock (93oct) and 107.5 with a cat-back (93oct). I also went 111 on a cat-back with a mix of 104/93. This car went 106.1 with a cat-back and 93oct. It's definitely strong, but 275whp stock doesn't sound right. It should have been run without the cat-back. I know I gained a significant amount with mine...

you went 111mph with (104oct/S-AFC/K&N/TBE/MR DV/MBC/Walbro 1.66 60')


13.17 @ 103.89 93oct/stock 1.92 60' (248awhp/238tq - Dynojet)
12.01 @ 111.67 104oct/S-AFC/K&N/TBE/MR DV/MBC/Walbro 1.66 60'


those are from your signature... regardless you went 103mph (sorry high 103mphs) with 248 awhp , it went 106mph with 275 (sorry 276awhp with the 1hp the exhaust gained) just sayin it adds up right in my eyes... are you having evo9 envy? I just don't see why its hard for you to believe....but as said before really who cares...lol. You are a great driver either way so your times are above what most can do.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 10:24 AM
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let's put Warrtalon in an IX and see what the 9 can REALLY do. . . .(bye bye clutch!!!). . .PS, you guys need to remember, the clutch only has 200 odd miles on it or something, it'll take at LEAST another 400 miles to have the flywheel and clutch mate nicely, for a perfectly grippy stock launch. . .I'm only getting good launches NOW at 2900 miles, below 1000 miles it wasn't so pretty. . .
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by evodave
you went 111mph with (104oct/S-AFC/K&N/TBE/MR DV/MBC/Walbro 1.66 60')


13.17 @ 103.89 93oct/stock 1.92 60' (248awhp/238tq - Dynojet)
12.01 @ 111.67 104oct/S-AFC/K&N/TBE/MR DV/MBC/Walbro 1.66 60'


those are from your signature... regardless you went 103mph (sorry high 103mphs) with 248 awhp , it went 106mph with 275 (sorry 276awhp with the 1hp the exhaust gained) just sayin it adds up right in my eyes... are you having evo9 envy? I just don't see why its hard for you to believe....but as said before really who cares...lol. You are a great driver either way so your times are above what most can do.
I went 113.7 on the mods you see listed. I went 110.7 back when I had the cat-back. The MR is gear-limited in 4th without a flash, which is how I've been operating up until this week. That's why you see the 12.01 at 111.67 with the TBE.

Anyway, I have no reason to envy the 9. I hope it does better, because it should. I just don't think 275 is accurate, nor do I think it's possible for a cat-back to only add 1whp. Every other Evo shows great gains with just a cat-back...even just the axle-back, so I'm not sold on this 1hp gain. We all know that power gains are seen by more than just a peak increase. There's about 2000 worth of rpm used at the drag strip, and the peak hp only comes at one spot (~6800). You can have gains throughout the rest of that range that don't show up on the peak figures. Also, just because I ran 104 (or 103.9) on my very first and only try doesn't mean it wasn't capable of 104+ and even 105. A guy in NY and a guy in Idaho each ran 13.0 at 105 in stock form with their 05s, too, but we aren't dyno'ing near 275 stock.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 11:14 AM
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Lets get over it....Tym is a stand up dude along with his work. He has no reason to inflate anything. He knows full well the people on this forum are gonna scrutinize.
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