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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 07:09 PM
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ahh the powerful and almighty evo huh? well theres no weak points. (just kidding) as far as i know the 03 evos have a weaker transmission than the new ones but still better than the subaru wrx sti wrr wsyz whatever. but thas all i heard
Did I just read this right? "The Evo has a better transmission than the STi." I'd hate to burst your bubble, but you're incorrect. And don't mention the Evo's clutch being stronger than the STi's clutch.

The Evo might have a better transmission than the WRX, but sorry, not the STi. In fact, the WRX transmission isn't even all that poor. It's the fools that are power-shifting and launching at 6000 rpm that have the problem with the WRX transmissions. The most transmission failures occur with owners between 18-21 years old, I believe. I actually heard that from a member here on EvoM. Makes sense to me!
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 07:14 PM
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Resales value is one of the BEST in its class...
Very true. Definitely a good thing for people trading up, but a bad thing for people looking to buy.
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Sinister Subaru
Did I just read this right? "The Evo has a better transmission than the STi." I'd hate to burst your bubble, but you're incorrect. And don't mention the Evo's clutch being stronger than the STi's clutch.

The Evo might have a better transmission than the WRX, but sorry, not the STi. In fact, the WRX transmission isn't even all that poor. It's the fools that are power-shifting and launching at 6000 rpm that have the problem with the WRX transmissions. The most transmission failures occur with owners between 18-21 years old, I believe. I actually heard that from a member here on EvoM. Makes sense to me!
I have to agree; the STI's tranny is outstanding! it is basically bullet proof. The big valley STi that is making over 700WHP is still runing the stock trannny. I still love my 05' evo though, it has taken well over 50 good launches without a hickup. when it does go TRE here i come!
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff_Jeske
This is extremely common on all evos even after a fluid change.

It doesn't make the tranny junk its just a negative point. The tranny is still very stout. I like you pound the living **** out of my car and it takes it with a smile.

I worry about the transfer case because so many have blown them out....but I recognize that most of those people probably OVERabuse the car on hard launches. Besides the aftermarket support for the EVO is OUTSTANDING. I can get a build xfer case from TRE and never have to worry about it again.

The aftermarket is one of the reasons I love my EVO. Previous to this I owned a car that could be made fast but when it broke there wasn't any support to upgrade from OEM parts. At least on the EVO if something does crap out you can pretty much upgrade to something that won't allow that to happen again.

The reason for this is that the transfer box and the rear diff use very particular oils. I've seen with my own eyes a car changing oil one day and coming back the very next day with a grinding transfer box. Best bet is to use the OEM oils. I know it's expensive, but you don't have to change it regularly and evn then you only use a little bit of it at a time.

As for the poor servicing, it's probably just that the evo is so much more complicated than other mitsu's that your local mitsubishi mechanics aren't used to working on it. Beside, it is uitra rare (in comparison to other mitsubishi's) so I don't think they get much practice!!

Don't get me wrong, Mitsu should train their guys well enough to take care of all the cars they sell. It's just that I suppose some dealers may be more equipped to deal with evo's than others.
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Sinister Subaru
Did I just read this right? "The Evo has a better transmission than the STi." I'd hate to burst your bubble, but you're incorrect. And don't mention the Evo's clutch being stronger than the STi's clutch.

The Evo might have a better transmission than the WRX, but sorry, not the STi. In fact, the WRX transmission isn't even all that poor. It's the fools that are power-shifting and launching at 6000 rpm that have the problem with the WRX transmissions. The most transmission failures occur with owners between 18-21 years old, I believe. I actually heard that from a member here on EvoM. Makes sense to me!
I second that

and as for the 03's having so much trouble....name me the design change that made the 04's and 5's so much better. Some people just have problems driving...even me

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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Sinister Subaru
Did I just read this right? "The Evo has a better transmission than the STi." I'd hate to burst your bubble, but you're incorrect. And don't mention the Evo's clutch being stronger than the STi's clutch.
The STi tranny might be better than the 5-speed Evo--I don't know. I do know that the 6-speed Evo tranny is very solid--I haven't heard of any problems with it--and it's much smoother shifting than the STi, with fewer missed shifts and grinds.

In fact, the WRX transmission isn't even all that poor. It's the fools that are power-shifting and launching at 6000 rpm that have the problem with the WRX transmissions.
My Subaru dealer replaced the 1st/2nd gears and synchros in my '02 WRX under warranty. At 8700 miles, it refused to shift into 1st gear if the car was moving at all. The WRX tranny is notoriously weak, and you can't blame it on clutch dumping, powershifting kids. I'm 45 and never dumped or power shifted, and I had a couple hundred thousand miles of manual transmission driving experience with no transmission damage.
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 08:28 PM
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Ok, I guess I'm going to be the one to say this ....
Do a search this has been covered many times before ...
Thank you
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 09:28 PM
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02 wrx transmission sucks they over hauled it for 03

there is actually a technical reason for this but i forgot, not just dumb kids driving them
but then again im the second owner on mine in 50k miles and the original cluck with short shifter and its fine.


im also a wrx guy looking for evo information, many of you talk about expensive maintenance would this be more then a wrx and if so what makes it more expensive.
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 01:39 AM
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it's a mitsubishi
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Thegame
They weak point in my evo is that I have to get out of it every now and then.
"Any time I get annoyed with the minor noises or inconveniences of the car, I remember that I'm basically driving a race car on the public roads and I'm faster than most everything around me, then you tend to not notice the little things."
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 06:25 AM
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Weakest EVO point?

Inexperienced AWD drivers that are mod happy thus give EVOs a bad name.
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by kdogg
Weakest EVO point?

Inexperienced AWD drivers that are mod happy thus give EVOs a bad name.
Agreed. Lot's of those.
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by kdogg
Weakest EVO point?

Inexperienced AWD drivers that are mod happy thus give EVOs a bad name.



- Stock Clutch
- Stock ECU (CEL when you install a test pipe)
- Top Speed 153mph (Running out of gears 5-spd)

Those 3 can be fixed if you got some $$$ other than that I had 0 problems with my Evo.
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 07:59 AM
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AMS was running their stock Tranny for the whole 2004 season without problems so you guys can stop with the weak tranny crap, im on Evo #2, this one has 11k miles and my last had 33k miles....w/ NO PROBLEMS. I did replace the clutch in my '03 b/c in the first 10k miles i drove like a jackass. Would i put my car's tranny against a STi?...Fu<k yea!
in 2 1/2 years of owning Evo's they have NEVER failed on me and i have AutoXed, launched over 50 times, and even RallyXed (dirt track).

The Test pipe fix is a matter of spending $3.50 at your local autoparts store for anti-foul adapters, besides, all cars throw a CEL when removing the cats
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