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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 04:17 PM
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De-Wining Da evo8

Ok I like this car alot. But Im also 30+ years old. The wing is very very nice, I love the carbon fiber and all, but I feel that the car draws too much attention with that huge wing in the back. Plus Im not in my teens or early 20's anymore and would like to "blend" into traffic and parking lots a little better than I do now. I have many times, in magazines take my finger and put it over the wing to see how it looks, but in person it looks like it might just work. I mean many many cars of high performance dont have wings on them...... bmw, audi, lexus, mercedes, even the wrx looks good without the wing.
Im not concerned about loosing some downforce, im not doing over 100mph daily. If you stand back and look at the car without the wing there are still several key points to this car that speak out, the fenders, huge brakes, hood vent, I just think the wing "Screams" at people "hey look at me im a fast car, look at me" plus the fact that there are soooooooooooo many ricey cars out there with huge wings on them, well, kind of makes me sick, and I feel indifferent somtimes about driving this car with the wing. Once again If I were in my early 20's it would be really cool, but Im not.
So I found the 4 rubber bumpers under the trunk, there are just 4 nuts and washers holding the wing on, so I think it is coming off tonight. The only thing is the holes left in the trunk where the wing was at. Im thinking stainless screws painted white, that way I can put the wing on again if I happen to change my mind.
A body shop said they can weld the holes and refinish the trunk, but I like the idea of being able to put the wing back on if I so choose. So that is not an option.
So any ideas of what to use for the 4 holes on the trunk, Im sure some people put on and remove their wing from time to time.
Also keep the,,, "you should not have bought this car then' to a minimum please. I love the fact it has awd (4 season car), plus it is really roomy for a larger type guy.
Thanks and Ill post some pictures Wed. Both of the tint and the wingless evo.
ps. I might keep the wing or sell it depending on how I like the looks of it, If i keep it one thing is I could mount it on my wall and call it art!! BTW the parts shop just said to order the wing as a replacement would be $1,200.
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 04:26 PM
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Dude, this is something every new evo owner will go through. I went through it. It takes a lot of getting used to. DO NOT REMOVE THE WING WITHOUT installing the smaller lancer spoiler. The holes are likely to rust.

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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 04:26 PM
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Why not put a regular lancer OZ spoiler on instead? It's a nice looking low-profile spoiler.
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 04:27 PM
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Go back to the dealer and see if he'd swap it with the trunk lid from a plain Lancer with no spoiler ( according to Motor Trend, the trunk lid is shared with the base Lancer). I thought you could order the car without it. I don't know why they put so much garbage on this car, I beleive the EVO GTA has the same engine but has much better styling ( no hood vent and no big wing.) If all else fails, you could probably take it to a body shop and have the holes plugged up. I'm in the same boat. This thing has a lot to offer, but I won't buy one because of the "rice factor".
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 04:29 PM
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Here ya go..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33638
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 04:35 PM
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Oh ya,,,,, the friggin lancer wing IS NOT an option, the first thing I did when I got my car last week was removed the Lancer badge in the back. I even chipped the paint, and i didnt say one curse word when that happened I was just glad to see it removed!
Again, the small Lancer wing is not an option, but thanks for the heads up.

I loved the Big wing for the first few days,,,, but really, I would not mind seeing what it looks like removed and possibly hanging on the wall in my den.

Im thinking the bolts will have some kind of a rubber washer and the head will be a half moon shaped, Ill see how it goes.

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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 04:35 PM
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Hey one man's art is anothers garbage. I'm sure you are not the only one who feels that way. Suggestion after you remove the wing. Don't weld/refinish the trunk---for resale alone not to mention the ability to re-install just finsh it with some plugs.

Specifically what I am referring to is a smooth usually domed top plastic plug that is commonly used in interior trim for trunks, and even plugging holes drilled into door jambs (when they used to drill for rustproofing, attaching radiator grill shrowds etc. )
You should be able to find them in various sizes and both black and white. A common supplier to shops are companies like KAR, and it wont cost you more than a couple bucks for the 4!! Happy Hunting!

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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 04:39 PM
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i was under the impression that the wing is optional. why not just order the car without it ???
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 04:40 PM
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How much is a spare trunk lid (with no holes of course)?
Your wife (assuming you are married) is gonna kill you for collecting junk car parts!
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 04:41 PM
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Dude, this is something every new evo owner will go through. I went through it. It takes a lot of getting used to. DO NOT REMOVE THE WING WITHOUT installing the smaller lancer spoiler. The holes are likely to rust.
Ahh- Not a Good Idea- the OZ rally wing is a 3 Post with Light, Side holes do not Line up, you would have to drill --eek and there is no wiring for the center stop light. You are better to just use the plastic plugs

Go back to the dealer and see if he'd swap it with the trunk lid from a plain Lancer with no spoiler ( according to Motor Trend, the trunk lid is shared with the base Lancer). I thought you could order the car without it.
Also not the best idea, when I am appraising a vehicle for trade in I am Looking to make sure the Vin numbers are on all appropriate visable sheet metal parts. A non matching VIN raises my suspicions that you car was damaged and repaired using USED PARTS

But I bet the right dealer would be more than happy to swith out trunks with an OZ Rally just for the money they would make on the switched spoiler
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by MR.MITSU

Specifically what I am referring to is a smooth usually domed top plastic plug that is commonly used in interior trim for trunks, and even plugging holes drilled into door jambs (when they used to drill for rustproofing, attaching radiator grill shrowds etc. )
You should be able to find them in various sizes and both black and white. A common supplier to shops are companies like KAR, and it wont cost you more than a couple bucks for the 4!! Happy Hunting!

Is it leak proof???
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 04:53 PM
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If your up for it, i can trade my oz spoiler for yours
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 04:55 PM
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If not then i would be interested in buying if from you possibly
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 05:29 PM
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Blah, just replace the whole thing with a CF/FRP trunk. No rust or holes to worry about
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 05:58 PM
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When the Ralliart Lancer comes out, I wonder if you could use that spoiler?
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 06:14 PM
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Anybody know if there are any aftermarket EVO VII trunks (non-drilled of course) that will fit on the Evo VIII? The wing was great for a while, but I'm tired of my car being compared to the BatMobile. Not to mention the looks the cops have been giving me. Let's face it, I can do 65 with a cop right behind me, but I didn't buy the car to constantly run at the speed limit.
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 06:59 PM
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Exactly, just get a carbon fiber trunk.
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 07:20 PM
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This looks like a good topic for a howto.

In this thread, Tuner takes off the wing and finds some double sided tape under it.
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 08:08 PM
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Big wing, small wing. Who cares. I am nearly 40 and the big wing looks great - this is a street rally car, not a friggin camry.
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 08:23 PM
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dont get the lancer does share the same styling as the evo but...the doors alone has 200+ more welds on an evo then a regular lancer...my point being if you use the trunk of a lancer you might lose the structural strength on the trunk area of your car...but if you rather go with a cheaper solution yoru more then welcome to do so...

another solution would be to just take the wing off and get some ruber plugs from your local pep boys or home depot and plug up the holes so water wont leak in...suyfer girl did this to her car.

you can also buy a stock OZ lancer wing and swap it and sell your evo8 wing on the board.

good luck.

i took the wing off my car and i think it looks damn nice...especially with the trunk all clean with no badging.
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 09:42 PM
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Not to sound argumentative, but I agree with RallyBrit..

This is a "Factory Built Homologated Rally Car"...leave it alone or go invest in a car where you can blend in with the rest of the "masses" .

The word used to describe the type of car person this car, and other "homologated" or street legal race cars would appeal to:

Zealot

\Zeal"ot\, n. [F. z['e]lote, L. zelotes, Gr. ?. See Zeal.] One who is zealous; one who engages warmly in any cause, and pursues his object with earnestness and ardor; especially, one who is overzealous, or carried away by his zeal; one absorbed in devotion to anything; an enthusiast; a fanatical partisan.

You are either "in" or "out"... You should have figured it out a long time ago... and now your going to remove the spoiler that held up our cars for two more weeks . (I'll be upset if YOUR car's spoiler was the one that was giving them so much trouble at the factory...cost me two weeks of sleep WAITING...and your talking about removing it??!! I'm getting incensed..)


I can just imagine if I was worried about what people thought of me when I had my E30 M3, and it's big spoiler and box flares, and general "boy-racer" appearence...(I could care less, those in the know...KNOW!) REMOVE the exact things that make it ABLE to compete as a REAL RACE CAR??! Fricken HOGWASH....

BTW..The thought never crossed my mind to remove the spoiler on that car, and I certainly woudn't remove it on the EVO.

It's like marrying a Miss America with NICE BIG HOOTERS and wanting her to get a BREAST REDUCTION after you get hitched because of PUBLIC OPINION and the general GAWKING at her *****..

Go out and get a fishing pole.....
Go to your favorite watering hole....
Catch a HUGE fish..

Mount THAT in yer fricken den.

Sorry...I had to rant..I really disagree with the spoiler removal IMO I think I am making sense here, based on this car's heritage...
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 10:24 PM
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Had my wing off and decided to put it back on. Actually I don't find the car draws much attention in Calif. as there are so many eye catching other cars around where I live.

No that I am used to it I think it will stay on. Several "older"friends have said its looks good and is part of the car so leave it on.

BTW as I posted before, once you take off the bolts you will find it is really stuck on. I didn't try it but someone suggested a hair dryer to heat things up to get it unstuck. And once it is off you have 7 holes, not 4. One extra for alignment pin on each side and a big one on the right which is probably for 3rd taillight for small spoiler option.

Also BTW, if you put the small spoiler on a large spoiler car you will end up with 2 3rd taillights as the large spoiler car has one in front of the back window.

Hope that helps.
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Old Mar 19, 2003 | 01:43 AM
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This is my own opinion...nothing aimed at you gtr....this is just something i wanted to say.... I think the evo has a certain expected look about it. People who know about the evo expect to see the big wing and are accustomed to seeing it with the large wing. Despite how tacky it may look to some people, I actually think it's more tacky to take off the wing and drive wingless or with a smaller one. If I saw an evo and it had no wing I would be floored. Ever see those integras with the plastic hubcaps taken off and the wheels are all black? That's what I am reminded of when I think about it. Super tacky. The Evo has an established image and the big wing is definately one of the biggest parts of it. I really think if you bought this car you should be ready for the image it's going to portray until it gets more situated in the US market. As Claudius (i think it was him) said in another thread. In europe, the evo is an everyday car and no one is amazed to see one. It's just another thing to get you from point A to point B. I dont mind the look of the large wing. I want people to know I have and evo.....i'm freaking 30 grand in debt becaue of it and I want you to know that it's not some ordinary car!!

Rob

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Old Mar 19, 2003 | 09:45 AM
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Depending on the color of your car, you could easily match the paint on the heads of the stainless screws.

If you go this route, be sure to also put a dab of silicone caulk under the screw head before putting it in place. This will go a long way in keeping the moisture off the unpainted areas, and out of your car.

If you don't like the idea of the screws, try some vinyl tape. It comes in tons of colors. Just cut out a few disks from the roll, and put em over the hole. This will create a smoother look IMHO.

Both are easily removeable if you decide to put the wing back on.

But be aware when removing the wing. It is possibly held in place by the screws you can easily see AND high quality double sided tape.

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Old Mar 19, 2003 | 12:22 PM
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Thanks Demo for the link, and Tuner I found out last night everything you had written in your post.

First off i go to take the large hole bolt out , and well I get it out and,,,, clunk it falls off the socket and is now inside the trunk metal!!!! LOLOLO, I was like OOOOO ****-----oooo well. Then I seen that the wing was really held down , it is the same kind of sticky tape that the badges are put together with. And that Lancer badge was really hard to get off, it took alot of presure to pry it off, so I was thinking o **** i bet the whole underside of the wing is all taped on.....NOT GOOD. So I took a break for a while and decided to give it a try,
I put some wd-40 on the underside of the wing to loosen the tape, took the other screws out, this time putting the trunk down so the bolt stays in the socket. Gave it a few tuggs (its really on there) then POP it came off.
I like the looks of it, but the holes ???? one is round , the other is oval, then there is a plastic gromet that plugs into the wing, and a mystery hole the is covered in a 1 in circle of tape.
Ok here are the pictures..........
Do I need to start a new thread to post pictures or what? I dont see any upload/browse tabs here?
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Old Mar 19, 2003 | 01:04 PM
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Oh ya,,,,, the friggin lancer wing IS NOT an option, the first thing I did when I got my car last week was removed the Lancer badge in the back. I even chipped the paint, and i didnt say one curse word when that happened I was just glad to see it removed!
Again, the small Lancer wing is not an option, but thanks for the heads up.

I loved the Big wing for the first few days,,,, but really, I would not mind seeing what it looks like removed and possibly hanging on the wall in my den.

Im thinking the bolts will have some kind of a rubber washer and the head will be a half moon shaped, Ill see how it goes.
You are kidding right!!! What good did you find when you removed it aside from ruining your paint. You spend all that money on a pupose built car and you yank the badges off of it. That makes a lot of sense. That's like buying a Ferrari and taking the prancing horse off. It's your car do what you want, but I think you're basically destroying a fine car that IMO looks better than 90% of the crap out there.

As for the wing why don't you leave it. Without it the car loses it's style and looks like any other import. If that's what you wanted then you shoulda bought that instead of the Evo.
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Old Mar 19, 2003 | 01:11 PM
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Then I seen that the wing was really held down , it is the same kind of sticky tape that the badges are put together with. And that Lancer badge was really hard to get off, it took alot of presure to pry it off,
My skin crawls everytime I read that. Nothing will get me to pry something OEM off my brand new evo. Especially a large wing! WD-40 on the paint? Scraping off the adhesive? Yikes!
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Old Mar 19, 2003 | 01:33 PM
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Easy there - I think that part of the appeal of the EVO has always been (at least for me) the sleeper factor. Let's face it. If we wanted to take full advantage of the car's power, why on earth would we throw it in a 4 door sedan? Practicality is of course one reason, but few people buy a sports car for practicality. The looks on people's face when they see the car's performance is priceless. I agree that the wing adds a certain flair to the car's styling, but in SoCal, every ricer and his gardener has a wing. Removing the wing is a nice way to increase the stealth factor, while retaining most of the performance characteristics.

As far as comparing this to debadging a Ferrari, I think that's an unfair comparison. While the styling of the EVO is certainly edgy, I >personally< would not call it beautiful. Aggresive or attractive, yes, but hardly beautiful. As such, debadging does not equate to defacing IMHO.

That being said, I'm going to probably keep the wing. After reading how difficult it is to remove cleanly, I'll leave well enough alone and focus my efforts elsewhere...

My two cents
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Old Mar 19, 2003 | 01:40 PM
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The evo has always had the large wing, it's a trademark item for it. It's part of the heritage. That's why I would never remove it.
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Old Mar 19, 2003 | 02:55 PM
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well mine is gone and I like it more,,,,,, much more!
I dont have the feeling of being a 20 yr. old ricer,,,, Like somone said, the performance of the car will speak for itself, I personally dont need a huge wing, that everyone has.

Maybe those who really think huge wings are the way to go, you better tell the c5 guys, bmw, lexus, mercedes, audi, and several highly modded wrx's, (in sport car magazines) they are missing out and totally wrecked the looks and "performance" of there cars by not having a big *** wing. But then again Im not bashing the big wing, Im just saying its not my cup of soup. And if look around you wont see 100% of the people wanting it, no wing is just as nice.

A body shop said $400 to fill the holes (weld metal in there) and paint. Other wise he said we can use 3m tape. Im leaning towards getting them filled and painted.

To each their own,,,,,,
ps, do you have to start a new thread to post more pictures?
I dont see any browse tabs at the bottom of this page?
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 09:54 AM
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well mine is gone and I like it more,,,,,, much more!
To each their own,,,,,,
ps, do you have to start a new thread to post more pictures?
I dont see any browse tabs at the bottom of this page?
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Can you post pics?
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 11:53 AM
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I could , but I have asked many times how do u post a new picture on the same thread? Do you have to make a new topic to post another picture? I dont see and upload or browse button and the botom of this page.?

Thanks
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 12:13 PM
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No... Just look right under the last person's post. Which should be mine. Look right under my post and to the right and it says "NEW TOPIC" and "REPLY TO POST", click on "REPLY TO POST" and type ure message and it says "ATTACH FILE" that it where u add ure picture.
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 12:33 PM
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Here's the GTA. Clearly, a much more attractive package than the EVO. I don't want to hear anyone say the hood vents are necessary anymore because they don't know what they are talking about.



http://www.xtreme-uk.net/EvoVIIGTAIm...abankdetails=4
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by Cordwood
Here's the GTA. Clearly, a much more attractive package than the EVO. I don't want to hear anyone say the hood vents are necessary anymore because they don't know what they are talking about.



http://www.xtreme-uk.net/EvoVIIGTAIm...abankdetails=4
And you are an expert? huhu. GTA's are for old men.

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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 01:00 PM
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thanks i was looking right over that

Here is the wing off, it might be for sale $1100.

see if this picture will upload,,,, i got the compression set to 50
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 01:10 PM
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$1100?! What are you doing, adding a mark-up? I thought it was only a $480 option.

Alright, i'm adding you to the boycott list... just kidding!
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 01:24 PM
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parts said a replacement wing is $1200+tax.

Im not out looking to make any $$$, I dont even know if im going to part with it yet.
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