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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 05:55 PM
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Help Need A Clutch!!!!

hi i am an evo owner and i dont know what clutch i should get. this is going to be my second clutch getting install. right now i have ACT clutch and its about to wear out. so now i need your opinion onb what clutch i should get that can last me a long time or for ever. i heard about the exedy twin carbon clutch but i have no information about it. so can someone tell me a good clutch that i can get that will last me i long time. i am a pretty reckless drive and pull the clutch pretty hard too. so if anyone nkow any information abuot any clutch please let me know. i really want a good clutch.also is ther ea clutch that can never burn out?? just a thought
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 06:05 PM
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 06:10 PM
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Get a tilton clutch/and new flywheel and be done with it.

here:https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=172139

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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 06:14 PM
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Damn... Two clutches already? Do you live at the track? You must launch that thing even coming out of a McDonalds drive thru.

Good luck on finding your next clutch. Try a 3 disk one. That one may last a little longer but you'll hear it more.

I'm still working on the first with 28,000 miles and still holds strong.
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by IEXCELR8
Get a tilton clutch/and new flywheel and be done with it.

here:https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=172139
My thoughts exactly. Can't go wrong with Tilton.
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by evoballa21
i heard about the exedy twin carbon clutch but i have no information about it.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=147510
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 11:39 PM
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A big thing that people seldom mention here, but was stressed to me by Jon at TRE was this: multi plate carbon clutches and whatnot are great....huge torque handling capacity, great heat resistance, long life....but here's the thing. They will hold tons and tons of torque and can shock the hell out of your drivetrain. If you don't learn to drive/launch properly, if you get a big agressive clutch, you can shatter gears, differentials, transfer case, all kinds of fun stuff.

Jon reccomended to me to get a clutch that will hold near then torque capacity of my drive train. That way, if I screw up and dump it too hard, the clutch will slip as opposed to shattering my transmission.

Another thing to consider is drivability...the bigger the clutch, the stiffer the pedal, and often, the harsher the engagement. My clutch is a single plate cerametallic clutch from exedy, and I love it to death...but the pedal is a good bit stiffer than stock (stop and go for long periods can make my leg tired) and it's harsh. to get a smooth ride I have to slip it a good deal more than I'd like.

The ACT HDSS kit is great. Not insane tq handling, but the pedal feel is nice, and the engagement is smooth. Keep it adjusted and it'll treat you right. Slip it too much, however, and it will burn.

Like I mentioned, I love my exedy single plate cerametallic clutch, but it's a stiff pedal and harsh engagement.
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 06:08 AM
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if your driving style is such where you have gone through 2 clutches so far, then honestly, keep getting the ACT - bang for the buck it cannot be beat. There is no one who can honestly tell you how long "x" clutch will last over "y" - it all comes down to the driver.
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by evoballa21
hi i am an evo owner and i dont know what clutch i should get. this is going to be my second clutch getting install. right now i have ACT clutch and its about to wear out. so now i need your opinion onb what clutch i should get that can last me a long time or for ever. i heard about the exedy twin carbon clutch but i have no information about it. so can someone tell me a good clutch that i can get that will last me i long time. i am a pretty reckless drive and pull the clutch pretty hard too. so if anyone nkow any information abuot any clutch please let me know. i really want a good clutch.also is ther ea clutch that can never burn out?? just a thought
I have a Tilton Hybrid in stock. PM me if interested. Rated to 500tq, tested to 750tq by tilton and then rated at 2/3 slip capacity. Sounds like a winner for your slip happy driving style.
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Zemo
A big thing that people seldom mention here, but was stressed to me by Jon at TRE was this: multi plate carbon clutches and whatnot are great....huge torque handling capacity, great heat resistance, long life....but here's the thing. They will hold tons and tons of torque and can shock the hell out of your drivetrain. If you don't learn to drive/launch properly, if you get a big agressive clutch, you can shatter gears, differentials, transfer case, all kinds of fun stuff.

Jon reccomended to me to get a clutch that will hold near then torque capacity of my drive train. That way, if I screw up and dump it too hard, the clutch will slip as opposed to shattering my transmission.

Another thing to consider is drivability...the bigger the clutch, the stiffer the pedal, and often, the harsher the engagement. My clutch is a single plate cerametallic clutch from exedy, and I love it to death...but the pedal is a good bit stiffer than stock (stop and go for long periods can make my leg tired) and it's harsh. to get a smooth ride I have to slip it a good deal more than I'd like.
But due to the difficulty of doing a clutch on an evo most don't want to hear this. They just want the biggest baddest **** they can get because the nastier the clutch the better right? Of course the rest of the drive train will be perfectly fine. There have to be comprimises made in a drive train such as ours but who wants to listen to logic? I personally recommend getting away from organics. I prefer a nice segmented kevlar. I run the ClutchMasters FX-300 personally with wonderful success but rest assured people will jump all over this and say that I'm recommending crap. Personally spending over a grand on a clutch going into a street driven vehicle is just rediculous, then again so is going with the cheapest one out there. Good luck and pm me if you would like any more info
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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How much torque are you making? You sorta need to know that before buying a clutch. I'd recommend changing your driving style a bit before sinking a lot of money on a clutch you may not need. I've gotten some good pointers on launch techniques that is easier on the clutch, more repeatable and quicker from this forum. Driver improvement is an often overlooked mod.
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 09:17 PM
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I don't know what mileage, use or power you are talking about, but if you burned through an ACT prematurely, then overheating is most likely the issue (assuming everything else is right). The best way to prevent overheating clutches like this is to adjust your driving style. Some think they are easy on a clutch by not launching or engaging hard which is not true. It is easier on the rest of the driveline, but harder on the clutch. The clutch prefers to be dumped rather than slipped for longest wear. Less slippage = less heat. Obviously I don't know all the details, but I hope that helps someone who may not know better.
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 09:25 PM
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isnt act really good?
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 10:04 PM
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i had my ACT, it lasted me over 30k miles and felt brand new. I drove it daily about 50-60 miles with occasional racing. I dont know how hard ur driving or how much power ur making but maybe u should look into a twin disk or another single disk all depending on what u use ur car for
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 12:57 AM
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clutches are ridiculously expensive, mainly due to labor. just paid $950 for a new Sachs clutch in my 01 GTi. good luck man
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