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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ChangBang
I always warm up my car for about 3-4 minutes while I smoke a cigarette. Then I take it easy for the first 10 minutes, and usually I shift before the turbo starts spooling.

I also let my car cool off for about 3-4 minutes before shutting off, while I'm smoking another cigarette.

So that's two cigarettes whenever I drive my Evo.
Yer Evo is going to give you cancer

I start my car in the morning, strap the kids in and drive gently till it's warmed up. I would think gentle driving would be better than idling as well.
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 07:08 AM
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Mixed thoughts. My friend told me his early 90's BMW (I think the 325 model) says in the manual to drive immediatly and not warm up the engine. However it also says to take it easy until the temperature starts to rise. I warm up my evo till the needles moves then stay out of boost until it reaches the normal temp.
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by bryans2k
The answer is obvious... You do more damage to your engine allowing it to sit there because it takes a very long time for oil to come to temperature while the engine is idling.
No, I don't think that's right. When the car is idling under no load, the parts aren't seeing much stress. The oil is going to reach operating temp a little slower, but it isn't going to stress the engine. Then once it reaches optimum temp and the coolant is flowing right all is good. I probably idle it for about a minute or so and then stay out of the boost until the needle is moving.
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Evo IX
Yer Evo is going to give you cancer

I start my car in the morning, strap the kids in and drive gently till it's warmed up. I would think gentle driving would be better than idling as well.
Definitely. Letting it sit and idle for a long time is bad for the car. It also destroys the cat (if there is one).
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 07:13 AM
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yea 12qts is right its a 2006 911s. so i guess porsche is right, driv\e it but dont beat on it until its warm... guess i just saved myself a min of warmup time.
o and i got even with her. last night i took it out and ragged on it all up and down the mass pike. if you guys think the evo is stable at high speeds go test drive a porsche now
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 07:17 AM
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A case against idling:

http://www.peterboroughmoves.com/web...riving-4.pmove
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 07:41 AM
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I would imagine our iron block has alot to do with the needed warm up Vs. an all-aluminum engine.

In any case, couple of mins. warm up IS needed on the evo, followed by gentle driving.
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 07:47 AM
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I just let it warm up enough to scrape the ice off the windows, i figure thats enough idling time.
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 07:47 AM
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From Exxon Mobil via some NASCAR "Crew Chief" who seems to know what he's talking about:

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/051207/20051207005048.html?.v=1

Vehicle Warm-up

When starting a vehicle in cold weather, be sure to allow the engine to idle for a few seconds before driving off. Why? Because doing so will ensure proper oil flow and lubrication. That said, don't allow the engine to idle for a prolonged period after start-up in cold weather. All this does is waste fuel. It doesn't do anything to warm drive-train components. After starting your car and allowing it to idle for a short time, just drive easily for several miles to ensure proper vehicle warm-up.
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by nyrican
I would definitly let the Evo warm up like you said at least until the needle starts moving. I would think that would be the case for ANY car. I am in MA too so I understand how cold its been here. It just cant be good for the engine and oil to go from sub zero temps to operating temps that quickly. I remember reading on here that it can be especially bad for turbo ( fins I think )do to the rapid change in temp.
ehh what do you know your the one rocking 24's in the snow/ice storm thursday night
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 08:38 AM
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i just thought this was strange:
this morning the weather here in boston was pretty rugged, enough so that my mother didnt want to drive her 911s until the weather passed. so i let her borrow my evo since i had nowhere to go (home on break) i give her the keys she jumps right in and tears off. i called her immedaitaley saying " is that how you treat your porsche?" so she tells me that not only did the delership tell her to not to warm up the car, but the manual also says drive it immediately and let it warm uop from use.. any thoughts on this? what do you guys do? i always let it sit until the needle at least starts to move
p.s she also uses mobil1 and the dealer told her to change the oil after the 3500 mile break in and then like once a yr... nuts
The oil change interval on the 996 is 15,000 miles or once a year, and the 997 is 20,000 miles or once a year.
And they take 8.7 quarts of oil with filter.
and as far as warm up goes, this is what the owners manual states....

-Do not let engine idle to warm up.
-When starting the engine, be ready to drive immediately.
Drive vehicle at moderate speeds and avoid engine speeds above 4200 rpms during the first 5 minutes.

Hope this clarifies a few things

Last edited by Evilution VIII; Dec 17, 2005 at 08:53 AM.
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 08:42 AM
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yeah text her next time!

HAHA! I don't care who you are, that's funny right there!
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 10:17 AM
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Any turbo engine you should wait until the engine oil is warmed up...at least until about 180F to be safe.
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 10:44 AM
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Bentley manual said VAG P.Ing cars should not sit idling in cold winter for too long to prevent causing a CEL

CAT needs to heat up fast
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 12:20 PM
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Talking A$$

Originally Posted by Massevo8
ehh what do you know your the one rocking 24's in the snow/ice storm thursday night
They dont make 24 inch snow tires
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