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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 07:08 AM
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I just want 450whp on pump and alky for now, i am looking into the ecutek flash from MR Ivey.
Then its probably not for you, the ecutek is very nice. 450whp on pump and alky is very easy, 25-26psi is about all it takes honestly so I am sure it won't be a problem.
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 07:11 AM
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Then the ecutek should control the injectors?
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 07:22 AM
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AEM standalone is the way to go, AMS with GT35 AEM stock internals made 550awhp on pump.

Thats my next item wasting time with flashes when the real power is in standalone.
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 07:25 AM
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Whats power with no driveability? I need that, I dont want a car stumbling all over the place in the name of power.
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by WrX Kila
Whats power with no driveability? I need that, I dont want a car stumbling all over the place in the name of power.
I believe it will control bigger injectors, again the AEM can provide better driveability on a heavly modded setup than the stock ECU can if it is tuned correctly but it must be a good tune. People need to quite blaming the AEM box its self, its only as good as its tuner as stated before.

My car doesn't have a problem, trust me.
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 07:36 AM
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Stand alone is the best for driveability and there are no limits on how far you wanna go.
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by WrX Kila
ok, because I am not a tuner, and if i get an AEM, it will be like set it and forget it. No Logging nothing.
I say false on this one WrX, you live in NY, and have too much humidity some days, and cold the next. You have to tune/compensate for large temp changes. Did you look up the XEDE S.M.A.R.T. Set-up? You should read that before you decide on the Ecutek. Trust me, you decide of course, but READ on that (XEDE). Later, and good luck.

If you just set it and forget it, keep a tow-truck number handy, as you might be calling them when you go KABOOM! Need to fine tune it, just like everyone said.
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by WrX Kila
Thats what I mean, the stock ecu quickly adapts to weather changes. I was told that the stock air sensor reads better than speed density. I want to mke the power but this is going to be my street driven car also. For some reason I was never looked into XEDE. Is it similar to a Utec,which I heard is a good system.
The AEM will compensate for atmopheric changes, hell, it does almost anything you could ever want. If the tune is good, you won't have to change it seasonally. You can get the car to drive like stock until you push on the go pedal with almost any combination of parts...and then maximize the output of any given Evo. When compared with the AEM in features and end result, anything else can be considered a band-aid solution in my eyes.

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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer
The AEM will compensate for atmopheric changes, hell, it does almost anything you could ever want. If the tune is good, you won't have to change it seasonally. You can get the car to drive like stock until you push on the go pedal with almost any combination of parts...and then maximize the output of any given Evo. When compared with the AEM in features and end result, anything else can be considered a band-aid solution in my eyes.

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Hey Tom,
so you are saying this is a SET IT AND FORGET IT?! set-up? I haven't heard that to be the case, but hey, you learn something new everyday! Can anyone else verify this???

So with the hot summer and the cooler fall seasons, it doesnt matter how it is tuned???same tune year round?
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by WrX Kila
I searched before I started thread. I am going to be putting my turbo on really soon and I need to get it tuned. Here is the problem I have heard alot of stories about people blowing up motors or driveabilty issues with the AEM.
Driveability issues with the AEM will be from the tuning, or some other factor, you have more adjustability with the AEM.

I know it really boils down to the tuner, but I would really like to know is,
1 How much power can I expect with a flash on pump and Alky( gt3076 with all supporting Mods)
You might run into issues with the MAF. Asking what you should see on a certain platform isn't really viable, because your car and setup is different then all of ours I'm sure. It's also dependant on what turbo kit you're going with. AMS kit might make more power then an ATP kit, so just saying gt3076 isn't going to help. I do know that if it were my car I would go with the gt3071 over the gt3076 because I've read that the gt3071 will spool a lot faster, althogh it won't have as much power.


2 I have been told that a flash can control injectors , I plan on using 850cc
You can use bigger injectors with a flash, but I think there starts to be issues with idle quality and factors like that.
3 What are some of the issues people have with the AEM's
4 I have been told no matter how expensive the stand alone the factory ecu can make adjustments on the fly as oppose to the stand alone.
Thanks in Advance.
The AEM is a standalone therefor the ECU won't be able to make changes because it's not there...
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 09:17 AM
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I think there have been more cars blow up that had the AEM in the car, but it would be unfair to say the AEM caused the meltdown, but the coincidence is interesting. I am getting off this thread, as I have a piggyback, and gave my 2c, and am not familiar with the AEM, so my input is not that "valid" here.
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 09:17 AM
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I'm not a tuner by any stretch but learned some about how the AEM works from sitting in on the tune of my car about how it works when set up and tuned properly. I see cars making ridiculous power with stock driveability headed out the door every day on the AEM and that alone had me sold on it.

Tom
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer
I'm not a tuner by any stretch but learned some about how the AEM works from sitting in on the tune of my car about how it works when set up and tuned properly. I see cars making ridiculous power with stock driveability headed out the door every day on the AEM and that alone had me sold on it.

Tom
But Set it and Forget it??
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer
I'm not a tuner by any stretch but learned some about how the AEM works from sitting in on the tune of my car about how it works when set up and tuned properly. I see cars making ridiculous power with stock driveability headed out the door every day on the AEM and that alone had me sold on it.

Tom

yeah what he said ( i just wanna seem like i know what im talkin about)
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 09:52 AM
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When I said set it and forget it, I meant that after the car is tuned I would not be going into the system. If I decide to buy the AEM I would not even care for a start up disk. I would just bring it to Ivey and let him do his thing. SmokeMustang, your input on the matter is greatly apreciated. I looked at the XEDE, with the smart upgrade... I am not paying that much for a piggy back, I would go with the AEM for that price. 4TUN8... I dont like the 3071, I really want good topend with okay spool up. I think the gt35r is too much turbo for me now (my choice) and the 3076 is a good comprimise. I pieced my kit together and I will be bolting it up after I get my motor's compression checked.
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