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347 WHP/ 347 WTQ Evo VIII w/ HorsepowerFreaks 3.5" TBE, FMIC

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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 10:01 AM
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Why not? mine does!
Show us your MAP sensor log with a flat, linear boost curve from 3500-7000rpm, please.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Spins4
Nice numbers! Seeing numbers like these make me wonder why my car puts down 350whp, but yet only 311wtq, pretty much same mods, and same tuner?
His torque is normal - yours is the outlier. The peak wtq on the stock turbo should never be that much lower than peak whp, especially since you're running at least 22psi to achieve that 350whp. Maybe a boost leak or timing pull right at peak boost...
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 10:25 AM
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Nice numbers...
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 11:10 AM
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You cared enough to reply with a halfway witty comment about not caring 8)
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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Nice numbers. I go in on Halloween to get my car tuned. I will be running a similar setup, except with 264's and a BR Intake, and lower intercooler pipe. Tuning will be done by Al in CT. I'm hoping for similar #'s.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 11:31 AM
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Oh yeah get a bigger turbo!
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Spooldyou
Sure as soon as i save up the 3 grand to Buy AEM. Just To prove to wrong, I'll Do that. better yet. I'll drive to you, Pick you up, take you for a Quick ride then Prove you even more wrong. OR i could just realize what a Fing loser you really are and not even bother with your useless input that I dont care About... Yup i think thats a better solution
I certainly don't think my comment warranted such a nasty personal attack, but I'll let you and the moderators discuss it.

What you're really saying here is that you make claims without having proof and have no desire to show proof when making a claim, especially one that we all know is not true. Btw, taking me for a ride would not prove anything. If you think that looking at your gauge is "proof" that your boost does not taper at all by redline, then that pretty much answers things. I also don't see any relevance between paying $3k for an AEM EMS and showing a MAP sensor log showing proof that your boost doesn't taper. I have a stock ECU and have seen multiple MAP sensor logs of my boost from being on dynos that have such a device and from when Al tunes me, since he logs boost on every car he custom tunes. No standalone needed.

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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 12:00 PM
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This was my car which is an 03 with only 15k miles on it and my mods are in my signature. I think people with common sense understand that even though we have the same cars they aren't all exactly same. Let's not forget the fact that cars are tunned at different times of day with different temps. I also have the stock box with stock paper filter which I am sure is holding me back a bit. I've been noticing a lot of assclowns on these boards who rather bust ***** about numbers then congratulate and give thumbs up. If people don't belive my 1psi tappering of I can give two ****s really to be frank. Plus whenever someone makes a post about whatever it might be you always find a few jackasses who manage to argue over some sort of point. Not ot keep on going on and on but every tunner has different methods so numbers will always be different. French did a great job tunning the car, HPF makes great parts and John Nouri from Broadwayperformance is an awsome guy to deal with.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 12:07 PM
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Again, great power, but instead of getting upset about the questioning of boost taper, how about showing us the boost log from the dyno or whatever it is that makes you think your boost only tapers 1psi. That's all it takes. If so, you'd have the only stock turbo of its kind in the world that is able to do that, and we'd like to see proof. Thanks. As a reminder, you cannot base such a thing off your boost gauge, but I'm sure you already knew that.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
His torque is normal - yours is the outlier. The peak wtq on the stock turbo should never be that much lower than peak whp, especially since you're running at least 22psi to achieve that 350whp. Maybe a boost leak or timing pull right at peak boost...
21psi actually, on 93 pump as well. But your prob right. It has baffled me why my tourque is so low, but hp so high. And those numbers were straight from TTRs dyno
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
I certainly don't think my comment warranted such a nasty personal attack.

Woah, Woah... Warr...I keep on Forgetting your related to Jesus, and have never made a useless comment in your Whole posting on EVOM...... I Should be buying you a round!


Im honestly not about to start a huge arguement cause even if i do post my logs, You'll still think im lying Cause your ignorant and always think your right. If you would ASK.... i was saying.... my boost doesnt taper MORE than 1 PSI to redline. I have a 21psi spike and holds 20 to redline. Where as the Original post that i was responding too, said that his droped up to 5PSI on his spike....... Simple notes.


So this is my final post in this thread..... I dont want to Redirect this thread anymore than i already have..... My apologies HPE. you guy have great proucts keep up the good work!





Anthony
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 12:37 PM
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Those power numbers seem right about average for those mods. I dont think they are impressive though.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Spins4
21psi actually, on 93 pump as well. But your prob right. It has baffled me why my tourque is so low, but hp so high. And those numbers were straight from TTRs dyno
Well, that's a conundrum. First of all, making such high power on such low boost is highly unlikely (just like everything else in this thread), so you should be happy. It is very rare to make high peak whp without giving it some boost. If your boost only peaked at 21 and still made 340-ish whp, that's huge. However, making such low torque removes the fun factor, since we spend most of our time in the 3000-5000rpm range, which is where that big torque kick is so much fun. I would suggest a boost leak test and some timing logs to see what's happening right around peak boost.

Spoold, again, you are basing your "1psi drop" off your boost gauge, but I guarantee you it's a 2-3psi drop in actuality if you ever bothered to get some real data on your boost.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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In all honesty there is many variables to all of our results. I'll try to get the log if I can but I think French is going on vacation so we'll see. SOon2bevo, nothing against you but if I get an exhaust manifold, port my turbine housing and get an intake I can guarentee you I'll make same numbers as you did. Wasn't your boost gauge faulty so what was your actual boost at those numbers? Warrtalon I am not taking offense just annoyed at the fact how everyone always attacks anyone on these boards that is all.
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Old Oct 25, 2006 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by blockhed79
SOon2bevo, nothing against you but if I get an exhaust manifold, port my turbine housing and get an intake I can guarentee you I'll make same numbers as you did. Wasn't your boost gauge faulty so what was your actual boost at those numbers? Warrtalon I am not taking offense just annoyed at the fact how everyone always attacks anyone on these boards that is all.
I wasnt referring to the numbers I have now and even if you did get those mods, I think it will be very difficult to duplicate my power since not many can even hit 370.

I havent seen too many intake/porting turbine and exhaust mani add 28whp.

I was actually thinking about my PREVIOUS dyno:

I made 346awhp and 344 torque with 3" Turboback, intake, IC piping, HKS 272s.

You had 02, FMIC, and 280s and beat me by 1whp, thats why I said I was not impressed. Not to say youre not making good power because you are, but I wouldnt call it impressive.

In reference to my boost gauge, yes it was incorrect. At the time of they dyno it was reading 25psi however, I got rid of the Defi-D and got the Stewart Warner per Al's request since he said my Defi was 2psi off. Sure enough, right after installing the SW gauge, my boost was actually 2psi less. I made my power at 23psi. I think now with my custom dump tube Im making even more torque than the dyno shows.

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