I'm sorry that you're having problems but I'm sorry it's your own fault. First of all you picked the shop that did the work and even said, "it's just a clutch job" well obviously now you realize that "just a clutch job" isn't always trivial. But more importantly, you have modded the car and abused it by racing it repeatedly after the work was done. I hate to tell you but your own abuse it what caused the damage to occur as quickly as it did.

I get sick and tired of people who don't own up to their own actions and and try to blame it on someone else. You trying to pass this off onto this mechanic is flat out dishonest.

And so is your lame idea of putting DiaQueen back in in hopes that it quietes the noise down so you can trade the car in on something else. I'm sure you're going to tell the buyer or the lot where you trade it in that your car has been abused, and that it has a TC that is ready to go out at any moment.....right? You don't have that kind of integrity. You deserve to have your clutch go out, and to have your TC go out and to have to fork out $4K for a new one. It's your own fault and you deserve the consequences plain and simple.

 

Why don't you find out WHAT fluid is in there FIRST!! Get ahold of a petrolium Physicist, someone with a SPecialty in this field etc... This wouldn't be a small claims case anyhow. You have to PROVE cause and effect. I am out of this thread, I am getting po'ed. Unless, (which has happened before, that I am MISreading something here!) If so, I apologize in retrospect, I will go re-read your complaints.

 

ZING!!!! Best post of the month!

 

Once again you have made some good points but aside from all that, its the simple fact if a mechanic put wrong fluid in something, it breaks and you have proof that the mechanic did this, isnt that good enough grounds right there no matter what the circumstances? For example, say a mechanic puts ATF fluid in ur engine instead of oil. Yes the car will run, you will probably be able to run for at least a couple weeks (depending on how much driving you do) before the engine will fail. Now are you saying you wouldnt try and hold the mechanic responsible for this? I see my situation and this one the same, just different parts.

 

No!!!!! Not when you have admittedly abused your car. Not only would you have to prove that the wrong fluid caused the damage, but also prove that your own abuse DID NOT cause the damage. If you decide to not bring up the fact that you have modded and abused your car then you sir are guilty of purgery and should be locked up and get your dishonest @55 off the street.

Your logic sucks!

 

Your TC could have been 98% SHOT when you took it in for the clutch job. and the further abuse got you the extra 2%.

 

Ok just to set some things straight i am not trying to di*k anyone out of anything here. I am just saying that if a mechanic puts wrong fluid in something and it fails because of that they should be held responsible, thats all. If i call the guy and he says "i put Mitsu DiaQueen in the TC" it ends there, i call Shep and have him send me a new TC. I think mechanics these days get away with to much, and they know they can. Just because someone is to lazy to look in a manual to see what fluid is needed they just throw some generic fluid in to cut corners and cost most of the time, and you cant do that with our cars. yea you could probably do that with majority of the cars on the road but not performance car come on, very sad.

 

Yes you are. Ok so hypothetically let's say you call the shop and find out the wrong fluid was used. Ok, yes it was a mistake on the part of the shop, but you still have to prove that the reason your TC failed when you were driving it home from the track was directly a result of the fluid AND NOTHING ELSE. You CANNOT prove that because you abused your car PERIOD.

You're not going to prove some point about mechanics getting away with stuff. Sure there are shady mechanics out there that are dishonest but you are NO DIFFERENT. You are being just as dishonest as any lying sack mechanic out there.

 

Ok, reword the "I am not trying to di*k anyone out of anything" to "I want someone to pay for my TC because I dont"

First, if they put sawdust and banannas in there, well maybe. do you know what fluid is in there? Why didn't you take it to a reputable shop that works on these cars?

Others HAVE different fluid in their TC's. I used to! Mine blew 200 miles away on the highway after my clutch change. It was just it's time to go I guess. If you don't trust anyone, do it yourself, or pay a mitshu dealership to do it! Don't trust it with Uncle Cleatus' pick and pull to work on your ride. Your first post put a bad taste in our mouths from the beginning. You are TOO quick at pointing the finger at someone else.

Your bad mechanic descision+beating on the car =YOU needing to dig deep in YOUR pocket and get you a new one. I would hate to be the kid who buys this car off the lot.

Suck it up, and close this thread, I don't see it going anywhere.

 

[QUOTE=05evoGSR]while i am recording the phone convo. QUOTE]

UNLESS...u told him that you're recording this convo...it's can be dismissed in court as evidence...also...you used the car for xxxx days...he could get a 1st year law student to get this case off his back...proving the fluid cause the damage is tough one...it would cost more in court costs than the TC is worth...next time ...bring your own fluid...i did my own clutch...but got the whine from not using the right stuff...I got the WHINE without launching ...i'd have been less upset if i'd launched the nipples off the car...

...back on topic

 

And if this is the case so be it, im not going to let someone walk over me and put me in the hole 4k. If i find out he put wrong fluid in b/c he was to lazy to do the job right damn right im going to leave certain things out if it goes to court. If wrong fluid was used i feel it defidentally would of contributed to the failure if not all of the failure, all i hear in the thread is "my TC failed after my clutch install due to wrong fluid, not enough fluid, bad install etc" WTF. For the amount of racing i did with my car it should not of failed like that. I rarely hear anyone say their TC failed due to solely abuse.

 

OK, to clear some more things up here. I am under the impression from Shep that if QiaQueen (or somthing better) is not used the TC will fail, shouldnt this be in the shop manual for anything that involves the TC fluid being taken out? And if it is in the shop manual, there is no reason this should of been over looked.

 

Can you take it out and check the viscocity of it please. For all you know, Diaqueen WAS put in there. We are talking about TOO MANY "what if's". did you drain it and inspect it?

 

ok im out of this thread until i talk to the mechanic and find out exactly what is going on...i will update you guys when i get some answers, i am getting ahead of myself here. stay tuned....

 

Here are a few facts:
1. Most shops that work on clutches and/or other mechanical issues on many cars don't necessarily have all the pertinent shop manuals for all specific models (that is why dealership exist). They just have some basic guidelines from doing multiple clutch jobs on cars of varying make and models.

2. You don't necessarily have to use Diaqueen in the TC but you have to match or surpass the weight, viscosity and GL rating (this must match) of the oil you are substituting in the TC.

While I agree with you that the oil being used should have matched the stock oil, you still need to find out what was put in. AWD cars don't take as kindly to hard launches as FWD and RWD cars do. Goodluck ...