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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 02:54 PM
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F(&^ the stock hardware. 150 for pads all the way around with some Hawks or Project Mu. Rotor Pros or Rotor Work rotors 250 for all 4. 1 1/2 years strong baby. Stops way better than the stock Brembo crap and no brake dust FTMFW
Yeah...Rotor Pros(slotted)+Hawk performance pads=under 450.

When my brakes and rotors went out on me, I called the dealer and they quoted me 250 for the front pads 250 for the rear...Duh (mimicking Hommer), I then asked how much for the rotors, 250 for the front 250 for the rear...Duh...duh...so I've opt for Rotor Pros and Hawk pads and have been very happy. very little wear and tear and it's been a year+
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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I have to weigh the cost in time and effort. I'm intelligent enough to learn how to do stuff myself but I have other things to keep me busy (full-time job, four kids, etc.) Plus, I'd have to invest in the right tools (which I don't have that many of). I understand the pride that comes with doing stuff yourself. In another life, perhaps, I would be the kind of guy that did everything on my own (especially since this forum has tons of info). But at this point I'll just pay someone to do it right.

Oh, and I do not buy Advan AO-46s. I have set of Khumo Ecstas ($550) and they're fine.
Since you are a mathgeek then I assume you did a cost benefit analysis of paying that much money for a brake job. Investing in the right tools and learning how to do it yourself would definitely benefit you more than paying the cost of having someone else do it for you. If you know how to turn a wrench then you have the capabilities already.
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Evil_1
Yeah...Rotor Pros(slotted)+Hawk performance pads=under 450.

When my brakes and rotors went out on me, I called the dealer and they quoted me 250 for the front pads 250 for the rear...Duh (mimicking Hommer), I then asked how much for the rotors, 250 for the front 250 for the rear...Duh...duh...so I've opt for Rotor Pros and Hawk pads and have been very happy. very little wear and tear and it's been a year+
These will be the ones I buy when it is time to replace them.
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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I will only buy the evo when i can walk into the dealer ship and write a check for the total amount that i want to spend. Also i look at spending 30k on an evo a waste of funds at this point in my life i just want to finish school and find work that gets me off. In two or three years when im rich i will enjoy the car more ^_^ bad investment due to high high deprecation insurance and unstable gas supply. I will buy one when i know i can truly afford it untill then ill drive an evo in my dreams
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 03:07 PM
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I will only buy the evo when i can walk into the dealer ship and write a check for the total amount that i want to spend. Also i look at spending 30k on an evo a waste of funds at this point in my life i just want to finish school and find work that gets me off. In two or three years when im rich i will enjoy the car more ^_^ bad investment due to high high deprecation insurance and unstable gas supply. I will buy one when i know i can truly afford it untill then ill drive an evo in my dreams
Have you ever thought about joining the Army? Good benefits, good pay, get a chance to travel and see the world. I hope you like sand though.
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 03:09 PM
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Since you are a mathgeek then I assume you did a cost benefit analysis of paying that much money for a brake job. Investing in the right tools and learning how to do it yourself would definitely benefit you more than paying the cost of having someone else do it for you. If you know how to turn a wrench then you have the capabilities already.
There are other costs to be levied against the comments above, most of which can only be quantified on an individual level. For example, the cost of not spending time with one's family given a normally busy schedule, the cost of frustration and annoyance performing mechanical work as a novice, and let's not forget the cost of the uncertainty surrounding the job being done correctly. The OP already outlined his personal constraints and not having a professional do the work makes little sense to him. End of story.
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Chemwarrior
Since you are a mathgeek then I assume you did a cost benefit analysis of paying that much money for a brake job. Investing in the right tools and learning how to do it yourself would definitely benefit you more than paying the cost of having someone else do it for you. If you know how to turn a wrench then you have the capabilities already.
I appreciate your input. However as I've mentioned before in this thread, labor is not the issue in this case ($150 at most). What is costing are the parts. After reading some of these posts it seems that I might have paid too much for the parts and that this is where I might have saved a significant amount of money. However, I'm still a little skeptical that $60 rotors and $15 pads will last as long as $225 rotors and $150 pads. If someone can show me 50,000 miles on inexpensive aftermarket hardware, then I'll be sold. I got almost 50,000 miles on OEM stuff. Spending half as much for stuff lasting half as long is no advantage.
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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Have you ever thought about joining the Army? Good benefits, good pay, get a chance to travel and see the world. I hope you like sand though.
unfortunately i dislike the army i feel for the people who have to go fight wars for the global elite, i refuse to be a pawn in a game in which i can loose my life in and for what.I have made up my mind i will be going in to banking majoring in Banking and finance then geting an MBA hopefully i can be on the board of directors of the Federal Reserve some day. maybe even chill at the bohemian grove welcome the New World Order ^_^
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 03:17 PM
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There are other costs to be levied against the comments above, most of which can only be quantified on an individual level. For example, the cost of not spending time with one's family given a normally busy schedule, the cost of frustration and annoyance performing mechanical work as a novice, and let's not forget the cost of the uncertainty surrounding the job being done correctly. The OP already outlined his personal constraints and not having a professional do the work makes little sense to him. End of story.
If we were talking about something extremely technical then I would concur with your opinion on this, but have you considered the time spent at the store where he had the brakes replaced could have been time spent at his house with his kids helping him out as a time for bonding to counteract his normally busy schedule? And since we weren't talking about a technical repair then I was suggesting that buying the small amount and inexpensive tools while at the same time getting some input from the highly experienced experts that frequent this site he might have saved himself some time and money. By the way, that's the end of the story.
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by FJF
There are other costs to be levied against the comments above, most of which can only be quantified on an individual level. For example, the cost of not spending time with one's family given a normally busy schedule, the cost of frustration and annoyance performing mechanical work as a novice, and let's not forget the cost of the uncertainty surrounding the job being done correctly. The OP already outlined his personal constraints and not having a professional do the work makes little sense to him. End of story.
Thank you - well said. In fact this is exactly why I don't work on my car (beyond the basics). I've changed oil dozens of times when I was a teenager, put a starter in, etc. Give me a Chilton and I was good to go back then. However, I had time back in the day. Doing a brake job now to save maybe $100-150 in labor (what I make in an hour) is not worth the headache. Yes, I'm a mathgeek and yes I do consider everything when it comes to $.
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TechnoJunkie
unfortunately i dislike the army i feel for the people who have to go fight wars for the global elite, i refuse to be a pawn in a game in which i can loose my life in and for what.I have made up my mind i will be going in to banking majoring in Banking and finance then geting an MBA hopefully i can be on the board of directors of the Federal Reserve some day. maybe even chill at the bohemian grove welcome the New World Order ^_^
Hey the Army is not for everybody, but at least you have a game plan for your future. By the way, the Army paid for my college degrees.
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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im glad i work at a car dealership so i have access to everything i ever need and know how to do everything on my cars....
that should save me lots of money
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Chemwarrior
If we were talking about something extremely technical then I would concur with your opinion on this, but have you considered the time spent at the store where he had the brakes replaced could have been time spent at his house with his kids helping him out as a time for bonding to counteract his normally busy schedule? And since we weren't talking about a technical repair then I was suggesting that buying the small amount and inexpensive tools while at the same time getting some input from the highly experienced experts that frequent this site he might have saved himself some time and money. By the way, that's the end of the story.
Actually, I take my youngest daughter with me ever time I take my car in. One hour in the waiting room with her crawling all over me is priceless. And if I could do the job with someone next to me for the first time I'd be more inclined to try stuff like this. My lack of mechanical expertise stems from the fact that I spent a majority of my time buried in books. Never too late to learn, though...
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Chemwarrior
If we were talking about something extremely technical then I would concur with your opinion on this, but have you considered the time spent at the store where he had the brakes replaced could have been time spent at his house with his kids helping him out as a time for bonding to counteract his normally busy schedule?
<grin> At the risk of stating the brutally obvious, he clearly values one more than the other. We don't all place the same level of benefit onto situations that show naive parity.

And since we weren't talking about a technical repair then I was suggesting that buying the small amount and inexpensive tools while at the same time getting some input from the highly experienced experts that frequent this site he might have saved himself some time and money.
Repeating the same thing does nothing to negate the OP's personal constraints and preferences, nor does it remotely illustrate a basic understnding of the comments to which you seem to be responding. He clearly places a different value on the exercise that you and it's solely his choice to do so. He's bright enough to be aware of his options - and has shown that repeatedly - and he made the choice that was best for him. Whether that's the choice you would have made is irrelevant.

By the way, that's the end of the story.
Brrrr...okie-dokie.
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mathgeek
I appreciate your input. However as I've mentioned before in this thread, labor is not the issue in this case ($150 at most). What is costing are the parts. After reading some of these posts it seems that I might have paid too much for the parts and that this is where I might have saved a significant amount of money. However, I'm still a little skeptical that $60 rotors and $15 pads will last as long as $225 rotors and $150 pads. If someone can show me 50,000 miles on inexpensive aftermarket hardware, then I'll be sold. I got almost 50,000 miles on OEM stuff. Spending half as much for stuff lasting half as long is no advantage.
Agreed, it seems like you could have saved some money in parts. I personally changed my stock pads myself after a close friend showed me how to and I had heard it was easy to do and wanted to save a few bucks. Nothing wrong with having a Pro do the job and if I could afford to I would too.

The problem is, most people would get lost trying to do this on their own with little to no direction. I ended up installing Ferodo DS2500 which were definately a step up compared to the stock pads. Front and rear pads cost about $280ish. There are plenty of good pads and rotors that can be purchased for cheap that have equal or higher quality compared to the stock pads and rotors. You just have to do your research.

And yes I agree the EVO is NOT a cheap car to maintain, even when doing the job yourself ... stupid parts
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