I didnt think this fit into show and shine or advanced so it might work here in general. Anyway I have a few projects that will need the use of a tube bender. I'm looking to put in a 8 point cage into a 240 and civic hatch as well as do some work in 2 evo's and an baja truck. What i need to find out is what size tubing you guys used for each part of your cage, diameter, thickness, and type of steel. If you happen to know the dyes used that would be helpful too. I'm a certified welder and have done a few of these before, but the last 3 i did i just had them bring the tubes and i did the welding for them. I appreciate the help