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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 02:56 PM
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Had a conversation with someone today over race gas.

I hate to make a thread over something to just say, 'hey i proved you wrong!', but he doesnt seem to think he is wrong, when clearly he is. He is boostedreams.

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Evo Toy: Im adding race gas not to just cruise around in, im adding it to up the boost to 27-28psi

boostedreams: Good luck on over spooling yoru turbo

Evo Toy: over-spooling?

boostedreams: it will not hold 28lbs

Evo Toy: Your right, it wont, peak 28 and will probably fall to 20-22 to redline

boostedreams: thats pointles

boostedreams: why not have it hold 21

Evo Toy: 21 spike & hold 21?

boostedreams: not spikeng

boostedreams: hitting 21, and staying on 21

boostedreams: makes more since that hitting 28 then falling to 21 doesnt it

Evo Toy: No, it doesnt

boostedreams: yeah it does

Evo Toy: you will make a ton more power in the mid-range

boostedreams: your not making anymore power

Evo Toy: You clearly dont know what your talking about

boostedreams: no it will fall right off

boostedreams: no you dont

Evo Toy: yes, you do

boostedreams: im doe arguing

boostedreams: your not to bright

Evo Toy: Let me put it this way & you can answer with your excellent knowledge since you obviously research it all the time. Why is it that say on a GT30R, you can only run 22-24psi on pump gas depending on elevation? Hm? Doesnt make since especially when the efficency level is 26-28psi, eh?

boostedreams: no

Evo Toy: you'll knock over it 22-24

Evo Toy: on pump

Evo Toy: Race gas or meth will allow you run 25-30, maybe even a little higher

boostedreams: good luck with that

Evo Toy: Make 400 or so on pump, 475-500 on race gas/meth

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Overspooling. Wow. Just adding race gas isnt going to give you performance. Raising the boost up is one method of running race gas, while another method is dialing fuel/and mainly timing. Sure, running the turbo over what is considered stock is going to put more stress on the turbo.

I'd say a large percentage of this board is running at one time, race gas or meth. If this statement of his was true, why would everyone do it?

Anyhow guys, respectively, I think on race gas & raising the boost (on my 9.8) to 27/28 on my current 4 Wheel Slide tune now, ill gain 20-30whp. Is that just to much to ask? Or am I going to overspool my turbo, make less power & blow myself to smitherines!

How about someone clear this up for him, because its obvious no matter what I say, hes not going to get it.
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 03:01 PM
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So why did you post this thread?
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 03:05 PM
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A couple different reasons.

Originally Posted by CrackerJackToy
Anyhow guys, respectively, I think on race gas & raising the boost (on my 9.8) to 27/28 on my current 4 Wheel Slide tune now, ill gain 20-30whp. Is that just to much to ask?
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How about someone clear this up for him, because its obvious no matter what I say, hes not going to get it.
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 03:07 PM
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boostedreams fails for being an idiot and you fail for posting this thread
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 03:12 PM
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im running 110 right now, hitting 28 peak and falling to around 24. once in a while when gettin on it ill get a sight hesitation and then goes again, i dunno what that is, i really cant feel the diff that much to spend $70 every time i fill up, but my bro who rides shotgun says he feels the difference, im just stumped on the hesitation thing, funny thing is that i dont throw a cel, try it out and lemme know how u like it. i much rather be tuned for race gas, then i bet it would be a night and day diff.
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 03:17 PM
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Yeah, ive read tuning for it will help make a nice difference. I just wanted to turn the boost up & hit the track and work for a nice trap speed. Just entertaining the whole ordeal.
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 03:19 PM
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yea im tuned for pump 93, do u know if they can burn 2 maps in our ecu w/ a flash?
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 03:24 PM
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fail to ye all
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 03:47 PM
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I have 2 custom tunes on my car, one for 93 with around 22-23 psi and one for 110 with 28 peak holding 25-26. The 110 tune is HUGELY more powerful - props to Kunal (inco9nito99).

One thing I might say to the guy who says he can't feel the difference... I noticed you didn't list any sort of HFC or test pipe on your sig, did you just not put it down cause its so common or do you not have one? or am i an idiot and didn't see you did write it there... i don't see it. Get a test pipe, I'm pretty sure leaded gas and catalytic converters don't go together well.

To the OP - that guy is an idiot, yes.
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 03:54 PM
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you cant just pour race gas in and turn up the boost.
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JordanS4
you cant just pour race gas in and turn up the boost.
Sure you can. Where is warralton?
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 05:27 PM
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Wow, that is probably the DUMBEST conversation I have ever seen....

Props to you for tolerating that and handling it with such class! I would have freaked out and go BANANAS on the guy.
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 10:00 PM
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you can pour in race gas and turn up the boost... but you dont need something very potent... if the mixure of higher oct and 93 is too high youll run too rich.


i would mix a 50/50 of 104 and turn the boost to 27-28 pounds... youll hold boost better with the higher peak, not 27-28 obviously. but there is definetly a power gain.

Cheers!
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 08:16 AM
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When people don't know there stuff, it's better just to end the conversation.
I'll usually just leave it at:

"you really think so man? I'm pretty sure that [well known fact ] is right, but I could always be wrong. I'd love to hear where you got your information from."
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by JordanS4
you cant just pour race gas in and turn up the boost.
You can, but with the mix of race gas and hitting a higher load on your map due to turning up the boost, you will just run rich.

I have a seperate map that I tuned with race gas that I run at the track. The map has added timing and less fuel. I spike to ~27-28.
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