I love my X, the VIII's and the IX's are great cars too. mine's just grown up some.

 

I've been trying to find one on a lot to see, but no dealer i've been too have had one. I've only seen the X in video and pictures, but i think what bugs me is that it kinda has that 4cyl turbo AWD feel that the speed 6 had. More luxury, and i feel like they are moving away from it's WRC feel. Just like i thought the Mazda 3 should of been better as their awd 2.0L turbo, i think Mitsu should have stayed a bit smaller. But like i said, i haven't seen it in person, maybe when i do i'll feel differently.

 

i agree with just about everyones points in here, the x just really isnt an evo anymore to me. especially with no 4g63

 

So can the same thing be said about the Skyline? I mean it's not a Skyline anymore because it doesn't have an RB series engine? anyways I think the new X's look nice and everything, but I am more of a fan of the 4G63 in general since it is a tried and proven motor and that means more people will be modding the X, and the prices for parts on the previous evo's will go down which is good for us with VIII's and IX's

 

i like how the X drives

what i hate is -it looks like ****, is slower and heavier

the cure make next years evo or next model a 3.0L, lighter, more agressive, and way faster

im keepin my IX mr for life until then

 

I like how you ignored the fact that I pointed out that AMS is ALSO praising the X. So has AMS dropped their Evo VIII and IX products just like Shiv? No I don't think so. So just because you can discount Shiv's enthusiasm for the Evo X means nothing about the other vendor's opinions. AMS, Robi, chronohunter, the VP of JUN Auto ... there are plenty of people praising the X. Make all the excuses you want to yourself to help you sleep at night ... but the overwhelming educated response is that the Evo X is a great platform.

These educated opinions from hands on tuning and driving speak volumes . . .

 

Ofcoarse the vendors see the X as a great car. Why? Because the evo8 or 9 you are driving is probably already modded. If you buy an X, your a customer again. I'm not saying the vendors are lying, but it is in thier best interest to see people buying new cars.

 

Think with me for a second.

If the vendors were promoting the X for financial benefits...they would be losing right now. If they were only doing what they do for money, they would be better off not spending the time and money to research and develop new parts. It is not cheap to fab parts up from scratch. And customers will never be done modding their evo whether its an evo I, VI, VIII, or IX. There will always be a market no matter what we are driving, old or new.

my .02

 

Here is what i'm trying to say. Kisada you sound like a smart kid. Probably just got out of your economic class, thus the rant about the economy, but when you quote someone like shiv about how great the X is, you need to savvy your consumer skills. And please, anything I say to you doesn't help me sleep at night, alcohol does lets keep it light

 

I don't understand why you can't get over the Shiv portion of my statements and won't acknowledge that many other vendors and reviewers have good things to say about the X.

As for vendors having a vested interest in selling new product ... IXmr321 states it well but here's my analogy. . .

Movie studio spends $10mil making a movie. After its been out for a while they've already made profit on it. Do they then abandon it? No they continue to sell it, they put it out on dvd, they release 'special editions'... why do they do this? Because they've already made their investment back and everything else is now profit.

Now let's apply this idea to cars. You think the market for Evo VIII and Evo IX parts is gone? Don't you see people still buying parts for and fixing up much much older cars than the Evo 8/9?

Why is it so hard for you Evo 8/9 owners to just accept that the newest edition to your family has the proper 'genes' to make you guys proud?

 

I just got a call from a dealership yesterday that's over 300 miles away from me, and they tried to talk me into trading in my VIII for a X (I declined). I've never gotten a call like that before; I'm wondering if they are having a hard time selling them?

They asked me why I wasn't interested, and for me the primary reason is the crappy build quality of cars. I love driving my VIII (when it drives), but I hate how shoddy it's put together compared to other cars I've owned (toyota, nissan). The paint is garbage, the interior is cheap and creaking everywhere, the transmission shifts like *** and is fragile (6sp), and the rest of the drive train (rear diff, transfercase, clutch) all has gone out to get fixed before the car ever reached 30k.

I know some people argue it's a race car and it's modded, etc. but I can only compare it to my own previous experiences, and I modded/raced the **** out of my Toyota and never had any of these problems.I would actually have considered the X if the quality had improved, but from the traffic on this board it looks to have all the same issues again (cheap paint, transmission problems). I thought that since the X moved up in the price bracket they would have fixed these, but it sure doesn't look that way.

I could have tweaked the X to be more to my liking myself (both in performance and appearance), but the real incentive to upgrade (a better built car) just isn't there.

 

I'm not trying to argue with anyone here, but all I am saying is that, yes it does benefit them financially. You are totally correct that we will continue modding the evo's we already own. However a lot of us have already spend a lot of money on these cars and don't have as much stuff left to do. For example I already have a built motor, full exhaust, complete fuel delivery system. So I'm no longer in the market for that stuff anymore. Might I buy another turbo, Sure! But if I buy a new car i have A LOT of stuff to buy all over again. I seen the movie analogy and your dead on.... for a second. They make all the money on the movie, then they have to make money on merchandise, then "special editions"......... but whats next?? A Sequel!!! The X, is the sequel, or rather more the 3rd of a Trilogy (as far as the U.S. is concerened)

btw we all know the first movie is always the best j/k

 

wow this one got longer than I thought it would

 

i agree the X is just a huge mistake made once again by mitsubishi! ill be sticking with my IX MR for a looonggg loonngggg time.

 

The chassis and ease of handling is light years beyond what my VIII was capable of. It is a significant step ahead.