I'm hoping to take someone's used evo off their hands with 20,000 miles on it soon

A transition from my 17,000 mile stock WRX

 

I doubt they will ever be very abundant. There are only a few thousand of em out there.

My guess is that you'll probably see very few for sale until the "next big thing" is released....whether that be the next Evo or another enthusiast type car.

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Give it until they've been out a year. I think the 2004s need to be out before you see a lot for sale. If for whatever reason, the '04 had ACD, AYC, I'd be tempted to sell mine.

 

Probably, next spring. I'm surprised to see many used EVO's for sale already. It appears a few people "stretched" to purchase the EVO, and probably will be selling after winter is over.

 

I think only way I would sell my evo is if they came out with an r34 vpsecII new model skyline in the US

 

I'm with you 100% on the one.

 

There are only a few thousand that are reportedly going to be sold, but I have a feeling there will be many more. This car, although far superior, was brought over to compete with the WRX. If they have their sights on similar sales numbers, they'll need to sell between 15,000 and 20,000 in the first year. What were the planned figures from the WRX? They thought they were going to bring over 6,000 or something?

 

The difference there being, it was the President of Mitsu USA who quoted the 5k production number for this model year. And countless other people within the company have been quoted to say that this car is more meant to be a halo car than a money maker.

But only time will tell....

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10,000 Actually, ended up selling 18,000 by March 2002. Its hard to say really if its a car that competes with the WRX, if you think about it, the WRX is more daily driver friendly than the Evolution, for a few factors, A) WRX comes with all season tires B) The WRX's wearable items will last longer than the Evo's (Like brake pads) C) Not as expensive to maintain as the evo.

Also its easier to get a WRX in the options and color choice that you want, and usually get one for as little as a few hundred over invoice. Likewise the Evolution, it harder to get the colors you want, and their still asking buttloads of money for them.

So wheres the Evolution vs. WRX competision?

But of course, the Evolution is a better performing car hands down over a stock WRX.

If Mitsubishi really wanted to Steal the US market, what they could do is sell the RalliArt Evolution that will compete with the WRX STI (AYC, ACD, 300HP, 6-Speed Tranny, bells and whistles). Then offer a Base Evolution that offers cheap maintenence, offer high performance all season tires standard, and make the car cheaper by a few thousand dollars to close in on the margin of what a WRX costs new.

 

I think the tire issue is merely a judgement call. Subaru probably figured some of the drivers would be using the car in all weather situations. Further, they were trying to keep costs down, where Mitsu seems to have not had as significant a cost barrier to remain under. As far as the price of the car is concerned, the retail price is about 5k more than the WRX. If you recall, when the WRX first came out, dealerships were charging high mark-ups also. In fact, some still are. So, I think it's not far-fetched to consider Mitsubishi could be selling many more EVOs here than they initially planned for, if in fact they are over to compete with the WRX.

 

haha, my "no bells and whistles" Evo competes with your STi already. I don't want to pay extra for AYC/ACD handling crap, it already outhandles the STi. I don't want a 6 speed, it'd just forces me to make an extra shift in the 1/4 mile like you.

The Evo is a flagship car, like the VR4 of time since past. I heard rumors that the '04 base Lancer will be AWD, that's good enough for the grocery getter "cheaper" version you referred to.

 

we may be getting the skyline for 2006

 

Yes Yes, we know that even without AYC/ACD its still just as a great car.

But thats not the point, your not seeing it from my viewpoint.

People like options. Even though the Evolution might win all of the tests that the car magazines put out, this is what the average consumer sees....

--271Hp 2.0L w/ twin scroll turbo, Open front diff, 5 speed, and a limited slip in the rear axle.--

--300HP 2.5L w/ AVCS, limited slip diff's front and rear axles, DCCD, 6 speed transmission.--

+ people are more familiar with the WRX now since its been out for over 3 years. The Evolution has not really had enough time make its rounds through the social pipeline to give it a somewhat of a household name.

So like I said, even though the Evolution was favored by the Magazines, you must admit the Engine/Drivetrain specs alone in the STI just sound more "technically impressive", and really, thats what sells to consumers who are not as much as an enthusiast (as you and I) who buy thease types of cars.

People who know what the car somewhat is, they know its the car overseas that has "cool gizmo's" (AYC/ACD/and you mom's kitchen sink), I think when they learned that the US car didnt come with it, it turned them off from wanting to buy one, then when they saw that the STI came out with better features than the one sold overseas, they're more hyped on that instead.

My closing opinion: What I see is people are more drawn to gizmo's than performance.

Why did I buy an STI? Because I had the opportunity to buy one for $300 over invoice. So I did Even though I was interested in getting an Evolution, Mitsubishi dealers tend to be A-holes.

 

The skyline is no longer manufactured in japan, i.e. no more r34 twin turbos. The 350Z has taken over.

 

Exactly.

Mitsubishi severely needed a performance flagship that would present an image that would sell the rest of its line, especially the econobox Lancer.