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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 08:02 PM
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We should grab Mitsubishi by the *****!

Here you go read up! I'm tired now so I'll try and find some more stuff tomorrow. If you just type in lawsuits and mitsubishi, holy ****, unbelievable!









http://www.uwyo.edu/agadmin/news/consumer_conference.html http://www.businessweek.com/2000/00_41/b3702244.htm
http://www.carlaws.com/bio.htm
http://www.autosafety.org/article.php?scid=98&did=549

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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 08:06 PM
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Re: We should grab Mitsubishi by the *****!

Originally posted by gonzo
Here you go read up! I'm tired now so I'll try and find some more stuff tomorrow. If you just type in lawsuits and mitsubishi, holy ****, unbelievable!


http://www.uwyo.edu/agadmin/news/con...onference.html
http://www.businessweek.com/2000/00_41/b3702244.htm
http://www.carlaws.com/bio.htm
http://www.autosafety.org/article.php?scid=98&did=549
So I don't have to copy/paste each of those.
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 08:07 PM
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I had just fixed it. Sorry about that.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 05:05 AM
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This is interesting info. Well, those people with Problematic Evo's should all gather together and create a class action suit. Is there anyone on this board who is an attorney or knows one who could start the ball rolling?

It shouldn't be very hard to get a list of those individuals, from this board at least, who have had troubles with their cars.

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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 06:41 AM
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Only 1 of the links is specifically related to Mitsubishi problems and that one is about unitended accelleration when shifting into reverse. Most of the time those turn out to be pedal missapplication.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 07:26 AM
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Re: Re: We should grab Mitsubishi by the *****!

Originally posted by JRock


So I don't have to copy/paste each of those.
I read through every one of those links.

So what the hell is the gripe?

EVERY car maker goes through this stuff, people and the media love to ride this horse until it's buried.

From those links you'd think that Mitsu is starting some big conspiracy. I missed the Evo material, BTW.

EVERY single Internet car forum I've been on that deals with a "newish" car you see the same things - lemons, the manufacturer sucks (how could they do this to me!), whining about clutches and transmissions when only recently has AWD even been popular (read - more morons out driving them), boycott the company, class action suit (Zzzzzz), "grab by *****". Damn people, grow up.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 07:41 AM
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Is'nt the mitsubishi/chrysler tobacle from the mid to late 90's old news?

That business week article is almost 3yrs old!
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 08:35 AM
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When you guys go to the woods do you see each individual tree or do you see a whole forest? By reading the comments above I tend to think most of you notice the trees individually instead of seeing the forest as a whole....

It's the big picture that those articles paint that is important here. The specific instances cited within each article are secondary.

All gonzo was trying to show was that it is possible for consumers to successfully get satisfaction from the big faceless corporations. So if there really is a problem with the Evo, and if that problem is documentable, and if enough people were angry enough to act, it is possible to force Mitsu into admitting and correcting the issue.

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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 11:04 AM
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I agree that consumers must demand (and receive) restitution for gross product defects.
However, caution must accompany these "class-action" lawsuit crusades. In the end, laywers tend to be the ones benefitting most from such proceedings.
These lawsuits often lead to increases in cost that are then handed down to the general consumer. They also lead manufacturers to discontinue products or taking risks with with products that may generally be good (i.e. no EVO IX)
I think striking up dialog with corporate would be more constructive than engaging in the time (and sometimes cost) of involving lawyers (though it is a good threat, especially if you have multiple signatures on a letter).
I think that the EVO owners with LEGITIMATE problems not caused by their driving or abuse, should get together and create such a letter.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 12:33 PM
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Thanks mod, that was what I was trying to get at.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 04:18 PM
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Re: Re: Re: We should grab Mitsubishi by the *****!

Originally posted by DrMerl


I read through every one of those links.

So what the hell is the gripe?

EVERY car maker goes through this stuff, people and the media love to ride this horse until it's buried.

From those links you'd think that Mitsu is starting some big conspiracy. I missed the Evo material, BTW.

EVERY single Internet car forum I've been on that deals with a "newish" car you see the same things - lemons, the manufacturer sucks (how could they do this to me!), whining about clutches and transmissions when only recently has AWD even been popular (read - more morons out driving them), boycott the company, class action suit (Zzzzzz), "grab by *****". Damn people, grow up.

I agree 100% the clutch issue was the same in 99 when I got my SI. It is funny how 4.5 years later my car still runs great.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 04:21 PM
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LOL... I dont know about any of you guys but I've never heard of any other manufacturer that had problems with a high performance car and was a bastard about it. they are actually pointing out something, yes the media is there to make money and thats it, but Mitsu is now officially on the same side as the domestic crapola manufacturers.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by Secret Chimp
When you guys go to the woods do you see each individual tree or do you see a whole forest? By reading the comments above I tend to think most of you notice the trees individually instead of seeing the forest as a whole....

It's the big picture that those articles paint that is important here. The specific instances cited within each article are secondary.

All gonzo was trying to show was that it is possible for consumers to successfully get satisfaction from the big faceless corporations. So if there really is a problem with the Evo, and if that problem is documentable, and if enough people were angry enough to act, it is possible to force Mitsu into admitting and correcting the issue.

SC~
I agree with you there. I see the forest as well. I also see that the forest has been burned OVERALL by too many litigations.
I think I have an different outlook from most as I try and sneak in the cracks with the big corps, learn their games, otherwise it's a big PITA to do a head on confrontation.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 04:25 PM
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LOL... I dont know about any of you guys but I've never heard of any other manufacturer that had problems with a high performance car and was a bastard about it.
I'm not so sure about that. I have heard the same thing about Honda with the S2000, for both engine and transmission.
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Old Sep 4, 2003 | 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by YellwTyper
LOL... I dont know about any of you guys but I've never heard of any other manufacturer that had problems with a high performance car and was a bastard about it. they are actually pointing out something, yes the media is there to make money and thats it, but Mitsu is now officially on the same side as the domestic crapola manufacturers.
Audi had this problem with their hi-po luxury sedan and the "runaway" feature. I think you're right though, once you get to a certain level or amount of money things change. When I had my BMWs service, support and warranty issues are a non item...they just fix it (tiny warp in your dash...entire dash gets replaced, fading yellow on your M3...whole car gets stripped to shell and repainted). It's also a different sort of client that purchases these cars. There was quite a bit of grumbling going on about the E46 M3 and breaking its engine. Also consider with $5000K+ profit built into every BMW they have a little padding to play with warranties.

What would be interesting to see is the old posts from other $30K Japanese cars like the 300ZX TT, Supra, RX-7, etc and see how their warranty issues faired.

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