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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 02:57 PM
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Buy cheap, buy twice (or more)

With the number of "Find me a cheap CF this" or "Cheap super-light, forged, multi-piece wheels" or "How do I buy a cheap set of drilled rotors", etc., I find myself asking, "WTFO!?!?"

First of all, if you are going to buy ANYTHING cheap (and by cheap, I generally mean quality, though cheap price and cheap quality usually go hand-in-hand) for the Evo, consider that the stock part is probably 100x better than whatever APC crap you plan on installing.

Second, if you want exotic materials (CF, magnesium wheels, etc.), they are "exotic" for a reason and it's not because they are 1/2 Polynesian and 1/2 Irish. These materials are expensive to produce, mold, finish, and maintain. That's why they aren't common place. If you cut corners and buy some fiberglass-pseudo-carbon thing, it will eventually crack, plus all the people who know the good stuff will point and laugh (at best).

Third and finally, the last thing I want to see is a bunch of half-assed, sort-of riced-out Evos driving around. For those of you with a Lancer ES, OZ, etc., it's not so bad - you bought an economy car, so putting economical parts on it isn't a shame. But for those of you who dropped the coin on an Evo, don't humiliate it by putting some crap glowing windshield sprayers or some wheels that dent if you sit down too hard. I've even heard of people thinking of pulling the Recaros out to put some Tenzo R garbage seats in "because they match better". WTF!!!!!!!!

Anyway, that's my rant for the day. Don't despair if you can't buy that HKS turbo kit or Cusco carbon clutch now - stay stock until you can afford the right parts!

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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 03:17 PM
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I agreed
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 03:25 PM
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Agreed. I would hate to see an Evo with nozzle lights and valve stem flashers.

If you're buying something that's supposed to look good or perform well, drop the coin! Won't you be happy if your bargain hood doesn't fit or your new intake filter falls apart and gets sucked into your motor?
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 03:33 PM
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great buy your over price ****.
everyone doesn't have **** loads of cash.
I am not saying you should rice out there evo, but everone can't buy those 3k rims. all in all if it fits without having to hack up your car give it a shot. I did the 2k coilover and $1000 cams in my 300zxtt and i will never do it again.
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 03:40 PM
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Good post, I also have to say if you don't have the cash at least learn what you are doing. I waited a few months and just bough a used set of wheels "stock ones" for the track, and the Vishnu stage 1+ today, but I did spend about 40-50 hours looking at all of the options. I wanted a 350whp track car so stage1+ and a stock set of wheels does this. Maybe 6 months I will do a stage 2 with the turbo but right now it should work good. Also the stock wheels are great and I have had the Techno wheels as well as BBS wheels that are 3-4k on different cars and most of them are heavy as hell.
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 03:54 PM
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Couldnt say it any better. Great rant Chris
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 04:02 PM
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i agree that going to auto zone or APC for all you customizing needs is a bad idea. It will ruin the image of this great car. On the other hand, the most expensive part isn't always the best.

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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by EVOMIZ
great buy your over price ****.
everyone doesn't have **** loads of cash.
I am not saying you should rice out there evo, but everone can't buy those 3k rims. all in all if it fits without having to hack up your car give it a shot. I did the 2k coilover and $1000 cams in my 300zxtt and i will never do it again.
In response to this and the other comment about the most expensive parts, I never said someone had to buy the most expensive parts, just don't stoop to crap parts. I would never buy anything over-priced. To me, for a twin-disk carbon/carbon clutch to run about $1450-$1500, sounds like a deal. If you consider the engineering, materials, etc., that isn't over-priced. It might be out of someone's price range, which is something different, otherwise we'd all have a couple of Ferraris in our garages. The point is that instead of just buying things to "out-mod" someone or whatever, take the time and save up for something that will actually benefit the car. Of course, some people never get it and that's why there are riced-out Sunfires and Cavaliers...
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 07:55 PM
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Not bad...but Buschur parts are simple, most of the time use not-so fancy designs. (non-BB turbo's, cast manifolds, MBC + AFC) There parts are SOOO much less than the competiting products, it makes me wonder why you would buy HKS parts? Now of course, HKS does make some really nice products...but more of the time...nah.
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 07:58 PM
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Originally posted by 5StarSuzuki
Not bad...but Buschur parts are simple, most of the time use not-so fancy designs. (non-BB turbo's, cast manifolds, MBC + AFC) There parts are SOOO much less than the competiting products, it makes me wonder why you would buy HKS parts? Now of course, HKS does make some really nice products...but more of the time...nah.
Buschur's stuff is a perfect example of what I would suggest. The only HKS part on my car is my turbo timer... I am just sick of people expecting to get a sweet CF hood or some nice wheels for a few hundred bucks. The only reason I mentioned HKS is because people go for the branded stuff (but I am a Cusco ***** ).
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 08:03 PM
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Hey no need to diss me!

I happen to be one of those people who put LED nozzles and neon glow lights, so leave me alone!
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 09:27 PM
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Mike Shields of SPD tuning once said
"Think Ferarri not Ford";D

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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 09:39 PM
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Really funny rant Chris. I have a picture of a truck with a 2 foot wing. I'll post it later!
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 05:03 AM
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Does this mean I have to take off my valve stem LED's and my racing style gas cap decal off my fuel door?
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 06:42 AM
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Re: Buy cheap, buy twice (or more)

Originally posted by Chris in HB
With the number of "Find me a cheap CF this" or "Cheap super-light, forged, multi-piece wheels" or "How do I buy a cheap set of drilled rotors", etc., I find myself asking, "WTFO!?!?"

First of all, if you are going to buy ANYTHING cheap (and by cheap, I generally mean quality, though cheap price and cheap quality usually go hand-in-hand) for the Evo, consider that the stock part is probably 100x better than whatever APC crap you plan on installing.

Second, if you want exotic materials (CF, magnesium wheels, etc.), they are "exotic" for a reason and it's not because they are 1/2 Polynesian and 1/2 Irish. These materials are expensive to produce, mold, finish, and maintain. That's why they aren't common place. If you cut corners and buy some fiberglass-pseudo-carbon thing, it will eventually crack, plus all the people who know the good stuff will point and laugh (at best).

Third and finally, the last thing I want to see is a bunch of half-assed, sort-of riced-out Evos driving around. For those of you with a Lancer ES, OZ, etc., it's not so bad - you bought an economy car, so putting economical parts on it isn't a shame. But for those of you who dropped the coin on an Evo, don't humiliate it by putting some crap glowing windshield sprayers or some wheels that dent if you sit down too hard. I've even heard of people thinking of pulling the Recaros out to put some Tenzo R garbage seats in "because they match better". WTF!!!!!!!!

Anyway, that's my rant for the day. Don't despair if you can't buy that HKS turbo kit or Cusco carbon clutch now - stay stock until you can afford the right parts!

Chris
Staying stock for a while myself...the damn thing is fast enough already...
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