400hp only producing 300hp? Robbed/choked? Help
Say what you want fellas at the end of the day I know what I have. I would love to know if thats a stock 8 turbo record that would be great but the stock turbo is coming off just as soon as I graduate from the academy.
Side note, Running a less agressive tune it put down 383/412 uncorrected I have that sheet too if you would like to see it. All where done on VDR and on dynojet.
Edit:what the heck ill throw it in.
Side note, Running a less agressive tune it put down 383/412 uncorrected I have that sheet too if you would like to see it. All where done on VDR and on dynojet.
Edit:what the heck ill throw it in.
Thats the configuration its set at, do you use VDR? If so you would know its grayed out because you cant change that number, it would be lower for say buschers mustang dyno.
Last edited by BoostFTW05; Aug 8, 2010 at 12:24 AM.
Your car just doesnt like the mods you threw on for whatever reason.
If you search on the stock 8 turbo record you will find people struggling to get into the 390's and they have a fully built setup. The stock block, but ported heads, cast intake manifolds, I am talking about everything built and they were only putting down very high 300's on 93 octane with aggressive maps to boot.
As I said, I have never used VDR, since I have been lucky to be so close to both Buschur and also some local dynos here in Pittsburgh. I have a feeling though if you would throw that on a regular dyno dynamics or mustang dyno using the 1.00 CF (that should be used) you would be lucky to put down above 390. I would be very interested to see your plot though, because you might be the one to break it, but I would have to see some actual dyno printouts before I would believe that number.
Sorry, and again I am not meaning to upset you or put your setup down, but I am just skeptical. I hope you prove me wrong.
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no, clutch is fine
injectors ran at 63%
I wish i could get E85... no stations near 30 miles from me
Sorry I work on weekends for 15+ hr shift FML..
I just found out my boost reference point is located on my LICP? Y?
could it also be timing being off, due to my camgears?
I wish i could get E85... no stations near 30 miles from me
I just found out my boost reference point is located on my LICP? Y?
could it also be timing being off, due to my camgears?
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As far as post a log, I will have to get Criddler to post it here for me....
As for the 400/400 9.8, its possible, there is a guy that is attempting the same thing in utah, but i think he will be using water/meth
My camgears were set @ -1,-1
As for the 400/400 9.8, its possible, there is a guy that is attempting the same thing in utah, but i think he will be using water/meth
My camgears were set @ -1,-1
no, clutch is fine
Its good the clutch is fine, but you would likely feel some slipping during pulls and would realize you were being robbed of power.
injectors ran at 63%
Your IDC isn't really the important thing, it is the AFR's for which the motor is running. It is good you aren't tapped out of injector, but if your AFR's are in check that is all that is important. Now triple check your timing numbers and make sure they are alright.
I wish i could get E85... no stations near 30 miles from me
Switching to E-85 would help, but something else is wrong here. You should be making more power on pump than you are now.
Sorry I work on weekends for 15+ hr shift FML..
I just found out my boost reference point is located on my LICP? Y?
That is interesting, could throw the boost off. Switch it to the J-Pipe on the turbo and see if it makes a difference. Be sure to keep an eye on your wideband during this switch, because if the boost does increase then you are going to throw your timing and AFR's off considerably due to the increase in boost.
could it also be timing being off, due to my camgears?
Yes, if your cam gears are misaligned (shouldn't be unless your mechanic is an idiot or they are adjustable cam gears degreed incorrectly.) they will throw off timing and basically you could be running very aggressive (not likely because you would be knocking) or basically none regardless of what you put into the ROM. If the gears themselves are wrong then everything you have put in the tune for timing will be skewed and incorrect, either aggressive or retarded. This would be something to double check.
Its good the clutch is fine, but you would likely feel some slipping during pulls and would realize you were being robbed of power.
injectors ran at 63%
Your IDC isn't really the important thing, it is the AFR's for which the motor is running. It is good you aren't tapped out of injector, but if your AFR's are in check that is all that is important. Now triple check your timing numbers and make sure they are alright.
I wish i could get E85... no stations near 30 miles from me
Switching to E-85 would help, but something else is wrong here. You should be making more power on pump than you are now.
Sorry I work on weekends for 15+ hr shift FML..
I just found out my boost reference point is located on my LICP? Y?
That is interesting, could throw the boost off. Switch it to the J-Pipe on the turbo and see if it makes a difference. Be sure to keep an eye on your wideband during this switch, because if the boost does increase then you are going to throw your timing and AFR's off considerably due to the increase in boost.
could it also be timing being off, due to my camgears?
Yes, if your cam gears are misaligned (shouldn't be unless your mechanic is an idiot or they are adjustable cam gears degreed incorrectly.) they will throw off timing and basically you could be running very aggressive (not likely because you would be knocking) or basically none regardless of what you put into the ROM. If the gears themselves are wrong then everything you have put in the tune for timing will be skewed and incorrect, either aggressive or retarded. This would be something to double check.
I saw that 14 sec run. You were kinda shifting slow ( not being rude). But even with slow shifting you should have ran a lot faster.
For reference I ran a 13.2 with a super crappy 2.1 60ft ( first time dragging) Same drag strip, and I only had a 3 inch ex and tune....
Weston You should let me drive your car :P
Here is my first run ever... Listen to that clutch slip hahahah 2.2 60ft like what !!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loKcwMKrx1I
For reference I ran a 13.2 with a super crappy 2.1 60ft ( first time dragging) Same drag strip, and I only had a 3 inch ex and tune....
Weston You should let me drive your car :P
Here is my first run ever... Listen to that clutch slip hahahah 2.2 60ft like what !!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loKcwMKrx1I
Also heres a few things everyone is over looking and I have a good theory to back it up. Whens the last time you changed the spark plugs? How about the wires? With 720cc injectors and your setup, with a good tune they should be 85+%idc which would be around 400whp. You either are not getting enough air in the motor or your not efficently burning the air/fuel. So repalce the plugs/wires and get a new air filter.
On a side note the comp numbers are kinda low, theres a very small chance you lifted the head. Has the car overheated before?
On a side note the comp numbers are kinda low, theres a very small chance you lifted the head. Has the car overheated before?
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I saw that 14 sec run. You were kinda shifting slow ( not being rude). But even with slow shifting you should have ran a lot faster.
For reference I ran a 13.2 with a super crappy 2.1 60ft ( first time dragging) Same drag strip, and I only had a 3 inch ex and tune....
Weston You should let me drive your car :P
Here is my first run ever... Listen to that clutch slip hahahah 2.2 60ft like what !!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loKcwMKrx1I
For reference I ran a 13.2 with a super crappy 2.1 60ft ( first time dragging) Same drag strip, and I only had a 3 inch ex and tune....
Weston You should let me drive your car :P
Here is my first run ever... Listen to that clutch slip hahahah 2.2 60ft like what !!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loKcwMKrx1I
Also heres a few things everyone is over looking and I have a good theory to back it up. Whens the last time you changed the spark plugs? How about the wires? With 720cc injectors and your setup, with a good tune they should be 85+%idc which would be around 400whp. You either are not getting enough air in the motor or your not efficently burning the air/fuel. So repalce the plugs/wires and get a new air filter.
On a side note the comp numbers are kinda low, theres a very small chance you lifted the head. Has the car overheated before?
On a side note the comp numbers are kinda low, theres a very small chance you lifted the head. Has the car overheated before?