Hey guys, I am a complete noob to the Evo world and I have a few questions pertaining the engine and certain power levels that I would like to attain. I don't currently have an Evo but I am interested in buying one sometime soon. Just to give some background, I am coming from the BMW world having owned a 430 WHP, 450 TQ 2009 335i sedan. I loved that car but I want to get something more aggressive that will not be a daily driver but instead only for weekends and pure fun. Please, remember that attaining 440 WHP on a 335i is a rather easy task, I only had a full exhaust, intake, upgraded FMIC, a tune and a meth kit.

So these are my goals for an Evo 9.

- 550 WHP / 500 WTQ requirement (or however more is needed to meet below 1/4 mile reqs)
- Meth is acceptable as is 100/110 octane
- High 10's in the 1/4 with traps over 130
- No ethanol
- Engine must be built
- This will not be a daily driver, so full weight is not needed and big turbo lag is not an issue.


Given the above requirements, how much would a setup of this sort cost?

 

Fully built engine w/ built transmission, clutch, full bolt-ons, bigger turbo, etc, etc, etc... your total will be about 15-20K.

Will this be cash or credit?

 

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I agree with the said estimate $$$

 

Your et goal can be achieved with the stock turbo and factory bottom end. As for your whp and mph goals, I suggest an fp red.

 

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Fully built engine - correct
Upgraded turbo - correct
Built trans/t-case - incorrect, however would be good when the stock one goes bad IF it does
Fuel - 93oct for cheaper build, E85 if you want to get higher power but extra parts neeeded
Price - correct 17-20k IF you do a lot of work

 

Money shouldn't be an issue here, I was expecting 15-20K above vehicle price. I am essentially talking about a fully built race car here which will not be my DD.

Not necessary but I would prefer however;

-Full Weight
-Ability to run mid 10's with an over 130 MPH trap reliably and consistently.

- AMS offers the 900X package for 21K which essentially guarantees my desires but that is for a X, shouldn't it be a bit easier on a IX?


What is the WHP and WTQ that is required at full weight to achieve this?

 

Around 550whp dynojet if your able to put together a descent power curve. I'm 2 hours from Orlando. If your interested, I could build you a clone of my FP Red setup. It consistently trapped 132mph with a best of 10.301 ET.

 

8s and 9s tend to do a bit better in the 1320 than the X when similarly equipped.

In a ct9a with about 500whp, a multiplate clutch and a good driver 10s are very possible. Take a lesson from this guy....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7D6mCw-Vvc

I THINK he's on a stock 9 turbo, with e85...probably not making more than 450whp (over-estimation). Granted, thats some of the best shifting I've ever seen...and from a kid in street clothes and tennis shoes .

The stock frame turbo option is huge in the Evo camp, so you can cut ur budget 1-2k that way if you desire. With a t3 turbo, your goal will be reached a little easier...especially at the drag strip. If you do go with a t3, billet PTE turbos and FP HTA turbos are the current standard...with the borg warner EFR series projected to make all other turbos obsolete (again, an over-statement)...but that remains to be seen.

To summarize...10s are possible on the stock block, but you would obviously be pushing your luck. Fan through the dyno results section to see what the popular and reliable setups are...but you should be aiming for about 500whp to break into the 10s. The cost estimates given above are accurate if you will do most of the labor. good luck

EDIT: just re-read your fuel requirements. The stock frame turbo option will be difficult to get into 10s without running over 30psi, which you need high octane or ethanol fuel to do safely. Methanol injection is being phased out of Evos, in favor of other fuels. Meth is still an option however, especially if u build the motor and it is a non-DD. High octane fuel, as always, is another great option to run 30+ psi safely.

 

Building the engine is the only option, I want this to be a very reliable set up and as I've said before, I will not be DD this car.

I like the setup below;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rLo9CFovgE&feature=fvw

What does that entail?

 

2.3 and a 6262 will give you high 10s with high traps with bad driving. I think.