Engine Building/Tuning Professionals, where did you get your education?
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Engine Building/Tuning Professionals, where did you get your education?
I'm sure this isn't a questions the Gurus hear a lot, however, I really enjoy being properly educated in my fields of interest and would like to start studying about tuning/building Evos. I've built and worked around Mustangs (Carb and EFI) my whole life and recently got into the 4g63 world. I've read Performance Fuel Injection Systems by Matt & Jerry so I have a basic understanding of the EFI system. What books would the professionals recommend on 4g63 engine building and tuning? (I know that the tuning books will not likely be specific to the 4g63 powerplant). What did the professionals study to get where they are? I know that a lot of it is hands on experience, and that's what my car is for. However, I want to properly educate myself so I can properly educate others, and trial and error when working on a car gets a bit expensive. 
Thanks!
Bob

Thanks!
Bob
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From a tuning standpoint, on the stock ecu (I see you have an AEM EMS though), start here: http://evoscan.com/ecuflash/Merlins%...UIDE-V1.7a.pdf
You can also take EFI tuning classes here: http://www.efi101.com/. I really want to take them.
I'm still working on the engine building part myself
I can do everything myself these days, except the internals of the motor and like you said trial and error gets expensive.
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You can also take EFI tuning classes here: http://www.efi101.com/. I really want to take them.
I'm still working on the engine building part myself
I can do everything myself these days, except the internals of the motor and like you said trial and error gets expensive.-Bink
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http://www.amazon.com/Max-Performanc...0285193&sr=8-1
This would help you out. Doesn't show you exactly how to build one piece by piece but a lot of good info in it.
I'm pretty sure you can build an entire motor just from the service manuals as it gives you all the specs on everything.
This would help you out. Doesn't show you exactly how to build one piece by piece but a lot of good info in it.
I'm pretty sure you can build an entire motor just from the service manuals as it gives you all the specs on everything.
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http://www.amazon.com/Max-Performanc...0285193&sr=8-1
This would help you out. Doesn't show you exactly how to build one piece by piece but a lot of good info in it.
I'm pretty sure you can build an entire motor just from the service manuals as it gives you all the specs on everything.
This would help you out. Doesn't show you exactly how to build one piece by piece but a lot of good info in it.
I'm pretty sure you can build an entire motor just from the service manuals as it gives you all the specs on everything.
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http://www.amazon.com/Max-Performanc...0285193&sr=8-1
This would help you out. Doesn't show you exactly how to build one piece by piece but a lot of good info in it.
I'm pretty sure you can build an entire motor just from the service manuals as it gives you all the specs on everything.
This would help you out. Doesn't show you exactly how to build one piece by piece but a lot of good info in it.
I'm pretty sure you can build an entire motor just from the service manuals as it gives you all the specs on everything.

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http://www.amazon.com/Max-Performanc...0285193&sr=8-1
This would help you out. Doesn't show you exactly how to build one piece by piece but a lot of good info in it.
I'm pretty sure you can build an entire motor just from the service manuals as it gives you all the specs on everything.
This would help you out. Doesn't show you exactly how to build one piece by piece but a lot of good info in it.
I'm pretty sure you can build an entire motor just from the service manuals as it gives you all the specs on everything.
i started working on my own cars in college doing my undergrad in mechincal engineering. moved to texas for my day job and started going to school at University of texas at arlington (UTA) for my masters degree in controls engineering. got involved in formula SAE, did that for two years until i spent to much time doing that and not enough time taking the classes 
during that i learned how to tune/design/build from industry professionals (sauber F1, honda IRL, etc), got hands on experience building and racing race cars. after that i started doing my own thing, and very shortly built a pretty good customer base from being able to do higher quality work then the other shops in the area, and it has grown into a business now.

during that i learned how to tune/design/build from industry professionals (sauber F1, honda IRL, etc), got hands on experience building and racing race cars. after that i started doing my own thing, and very shortly built a pretty good customer base from being able to do higher quality work then the other shops in the area, and it has grown into a business now.
http://www.amazon.com/Max-Performanc...0285193&sr=8-1
This would help you out. Doesn't show you exactly how to build one piece by piece but a lot of good info in it.
I'm pretty sure you can build an entire motor just from the service manuals as it gives you all the specs on everything.
This would help you out. Doesn't show you exactly how to build one piece by piece but a lot of good info in it.
I'm pretty sure you can build an entire motor just from the service manuals as it gives you all the specs on everything.
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I think you're right. I have been around cars long enough that I know how things work and have also assembled/disassembled engines before. Any suggestions on a more in depth book?
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i started working on my own cars in college doing my undergrad in mechincal engineering. moved to texas for my day job and started going to school at University of texas at arlington (UTA) for my masters degree in controls engineering. got involved in formula SAE, did that for two years until i spent to much time doing that and not enough time taking the classes 
during that i learned how to tune/design/build from industry professionals (sauber F1, honda IRL, etc), got hands on experience building and racing race cars. after that i started doing my own thing, and very shortly built a pretty good customer base from being able to do higher quality work then the other shops in the area, and it has grown into a business now.

during that i learned how to tune/design/build from industry professionals (sauber F1, honda IRL, etc), got hands on experience building and racing race cars. after that i started doing my own thing, and very shortly built a pretty good customer base from being able to do higher quality work then the other shops in the area, and it has grown into a business now.
) through that EvoScan .pdf and it is stacked with information. Thanks for all of the responses thus far!
Started with domestics at age 14 in my grampa and uncle's shop building small blocks. Played with all forms of Chevy (still do) and one or two Fords. 1999 I got a civic and started messing around with it, 5 motors later I had a really good idea of what the differences are in tuning a supercharged D16 SOHC motor vs a 350 and built one...then added nitrous. DSMs came in around 95 when one of my friends picked up a 1994 and we order almost everything HKS had in the catalog in Turbo (when it was like 32pages long). Blew that up, figured out it was a DSM thing, proceeded on to Subaru for awhile.
Standalones, stock ECUs, piggybacks, etc. have all been since then.
I have the absolute non technical education when it came to cars and engines, it was all hands on. I went to school as an engineer but have never used it.
I have found that most programs that "teach" what we do daily are not preparing those entering the market. Anyone can press buttons and tune a car at WOT. Not anyone can tune the car, build the car, troubleshoot the car, triage the car, and make them do what we know that they can...with the right people behind the wheel. That being said we will not hire someone from WyoTech, UTI, etc. because of their "degree" or school. They would get hired because we know that they "get it" or they dont. They have the love and drive that is needed...or they dont. Those that "dont" can play GT5 or Forza, we'll continue to do it in real life.
Standalones, stock ECUs, piggybacks, etc. have all been since then.
I have the absolute non technical education when it came to cars and engines, it was all hands on. I went to school as an engineer but have never used it.
I have found that most programs that "teach" what we do daily are not preparing those entering the market. Anyone can press buttons and tune a car at WOT. Not anyone can tune the car, build the car, troubleshoot the car, triage the car, and make them do what we know that they can...with the right people behind the wheel. That being said we will not hire someone from WyoTech, UTI, etc. because of their "degree" or school. They would get hired because we know that they "get it" or they dont. They have the love and drive that is needed...or they dont. Those that "dont" can play GT5 or Forza, we'll continue to do it in real life.
Last edited by JohnBradley; Nov 3, 2011 at 06:04 PM.
A more in depth book would be the service manual. Other then that, reading around the forums to find some others setups and what works well compared to what went wrong with others.







