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No more 93:(

Old May 5, 2012 | 03:24 PM
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No more 93:(

So the only gas stations in my town that have 93 are converting to 91 within the next week or so. Right now I'm currently tuned on 93, so what I was wondering is that do I need a re-tune for 91, and if so how long can I safely or economically run 91 before a re-tune?
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Old May 5, 2012 | 03:29 PM
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you need a retune. Pull timing.
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Old May 5, 2012 | 03:29 PM
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Time for E85?
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Old May 5, 2012 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by markae86
Time for E85?
I wish, closest E85 station is about 7 hours away.
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Old May 5, 2012 | 03:54 PM
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That probably means Bozo and Buildings will phase out their 93oct. too.

Definitely will need a retune, and if that is not possible for a while, and you still want to hot rod it, I would dump a gallon of toluene in with every fill.
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Old May 5, 2012 | 03:56 PM
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How far away is the nearest 93 gas station?

Has the state given the residents reasons why they are switching fuel. I don't know how that is legal. Unless you bought a California spec'd car I would imagine alot of the cars that leave the dealership needing premium would also have na issue as well.

How do they justify that?
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Old May 5, 2012 | 06:08 PM
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^the closests station is about an hour and a half away...the gas station attendent didnt know why they are switching, but my best guess is the manufacturing cost.

Also I was talking to my friend and he said I would be fine without a retune because of the elevation of my town (3400 ft) is he right.
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Old May 5, 2012 | 06:11 PM
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that's fn awful
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Old May 5, 2012 | 06:44 PM
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Where do you live???
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Old May 5, 2012 | 08:07 PM
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Where do you live???
Though it says it under my avatar, I live in Missoula Montana.
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Old May 5, 2012 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by EvoTeyn
Also I was talking to my friend and he said I would be fine without a retune because of the elevation of my town (3400 ft) is he right.
I wouldn't take the chance.
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Old May 5, 2012 | 08:38 PM
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Just add toluene or xylene to your fuel and raise your octane back up. Done.
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Old May 5, 2012 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SmurfZilla
How far away is the nearest 93 gas station?

Has the state given the residents reasons why they are switching fuel. I don't know how that is legal. Unless you bought a California spec'd car I would imagine alot of the cars that leave the dealership needing premium would also have na issue as well.

How do they justify that?
We don't have pump 93 in our area here in Kansas. We had one station in town and they stopped carrying pump 93 without notice. Gas companies can do what they want. Most cars coming out of factories for premium fuel usually mean pump 91 minimum from what I've seen.
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Old May 5, 2012 | 09:33 PM
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ah gotcha.

Noone really can tell you how long you will be safe. It can brings knocks. I will get a retune soon to be safe. It's always good to have two maps if you can.
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Old May 5, 2012 | 10:41 PM
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Thats nuts. How toulene do you add to 10 gallons of 91.....what would that make the octane rating?
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