I'm finally going to get some upper ic pipes maybe some lower too. My question is if I get ets pipes but dont want the short route that requires a mini battery kit am I really sacrificing that much performance?

I dont want to buy upper i/c pipes and gain nothing out of them.

Also I just got my car tuned recently so I probably won't be getting it tuned for awhile even after this pipe install, without a tune will I still get small gains (I know I wont gain any noticable gains im just curious)

 

This has been beaten to death. You'll not notice any difference in UICP. Though in theory the shorter routing the better obviously.

As for the LICP this is where people state the gains are at and ETS did a baxck to back and showed a bit of an increase

I myself never noted a difference the first LICP I did was a Logic. Noted no difference really.

The second time around wasn't apples to apples as I did ETS piping and their FMIC at the same time. Tuning def showed gains there.

I then went to their T3 kit and the rest is history

 

Oh ok I see well, thanks for your reply! Very helpful.

 

Get your lower before the upper. Upper stock route pipe has no gains.

 

Good to know lol I'm going ets intercooler soon too!