For Car Salesmen out there
Originally posted by DGS
It's one thing for a Mitsu dealer to take an Eclipse in trade. It can be quite another thing for them to take a 'Stang.
If they're not equipped to clean it up for sale, all they can do it roll it down to the wholesale auction -- where they get a poor price. The trade-in offers you get are just passing on this poor bargain to you.
It's one thing for a Mitsu dealer to take an Eclipse in trade. It can be quite another thing for them to take a 'Stang.
If they're not equipped to clean it up for sale, all they can do it roll it down to the wholesale auction -- where they get a poor price. The trade-in offers you get are just passing on this poor bargain to you.
Originally posted by SVT
Are you serious? That's like saying Mitsubishi Dealerships won't sell used Fords. That's insane!
Are you serious? That's like saying Mitsubishi Dealerships won't sell used Fords. That's insane!
As for sanity -- I just report it.

But with all the computers in modern cars, are Mitsu dealers really equipped to diagnose a Ford?
Where you are required to warrantee a used car, I can see where holding to a specific brand may come in. Why that would be policy where no such requirement exists, ... :shrug:
This isn't exactly the same as your situation but when I had my 01 suzuki gsx-r600 and wanted to trade it for a new 03 the dealer said they'd give me 3800, the bike only had 4800 miles on it, and never been laid down, not a scratch. Ended up being patient, found a buyer, sold it privatley, and got 6200! It's worth it to sell privately!
Originally posted by Wallet Boy
I usually just go in saying that if they don't give me what I want then I won't be buying my new vehicle from them. 9 times out of 10 they want that new sale so bad that they fold.
When I bought my Evo, I told them up front that they had to buy me out of the car that I had, a 97 Eclipse Spyder. I told them that I owed $8000 on it (I actually owed $3000) and they jumped on it like a hobo on a hotdog. The car was not in good shape and was on the verge of falling apart but they still gave me $8000 for it just to get the Evo sale.
Just don't back down, they'll usually take a hit to make a $30,000 sale.
I usually just go in saying that if they don't give me what I want then I won't be buying my new vehicle from them. 9 times out of 10 they want that new sale so bad that they fold.
When I bought my Evo, I told them up front that they had to buy me out of the car that I had, a 97 Eclipse Spyder. I told them that I owed $8000 on it (I actually owed $3000) and they jumped on it like a hobo on a hotdog. The car was not in good shape and was on the verge of falling apart but they still gave me $8000 for it just to get the Evo sale.
Just don't back down, they'll usually take a hit to make a $30,000 sale.
just keep bugging them...there are 2 values in play when trading in, the KBB trade in value/wholesale which is the one you get online and the ACV (actual cash value) what the dealer thinks its worth
Originally posted by 3K
What they'll do is offer you an amount say $5K, and maybe you'd be happy with that thinking your car's only worth $3K. So now you're thinking you made out an extra $2K.
Next is they'll subtract the $5K from the the BS dealer mark-up and let's say the mark-up is $5K. $35K -$5K= $30K
What they'll do is offer you an amount say $5K, and maybe you'd be happy with that thinking your car's only worth $3K. So now you're thinking you made out an extra $2K.
Next is they'll subtract the $5K from the the BS dealer mark-up and let's say the mark-up is $5K. $35K -$5K= $30K
What you have to do is discuss trade in and pricing on the new car as 2 seperate items.
The biggest mistake a consumer can make is looking at the trade difference only or only one or two parts of the car deal..
Look at EVERY part..
1. Selling price
2. Trade value
3. Trade difference.
Of course, you should double check every piece of the transaction, but those three are the basics..
you guys are nuts!
Originally posted by SVT
Are you serious? That's like saying Mitsubishi Dealerships won't sell used Fords. That's insane!
Are you serious? That's like saying Mitsubishi Dealerships won't sell used Fords. That's insane!
and they went nuts over it. I traded it in for 22,500 towards my Evo. Had to do a tiny bit of haggling but they do resell fords.
Last edited by ezhangin; Mar 23, 2004 at 10:42 AM.
Well of course they would be all over it..
First of all it's a Lightning, which is more marketable for them than a standard F-Series truck...
Secondly, they will make a lot more gross profit on the Lightning when they sell it than what they made on the sale of the EVO to you..
Sometimes it's all relative to the "trade bait" you have..
First of all it's a Lightning, which is more marketable for them than a standard F-Series truck...
Secondly, they will make a lot more gross profit on the Lightning when they sell it than what they made on the sale of the EVO to you..
Sometimes it's all relative to the "trade bait" you have..
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As many people have mentioned here, and as you already know, it is almost always more profitable for you to sell a car yourself rather than trade it in. It all comes down to if you have the patience/time involved to sell it on your own.
When I purchased my Evo, I traded in my 02 Honda Accord EX after having a for sale sign it it for a few weeks with no real bites. Damn I wanted the Evo and I couldn't wait anymore! I did a little research about purchasing a new vehicle, trading in, etc. and how to make the transaction go MY way. Take a look at this web site http://www.carbuyingtips.com/scams.htm . Go to the bottom of the page where all of the chapters are listed. I read through all of them (yeah, it's a lot of reading, but worth it if you're serious about being "armed" when you walk into the dealer). I must say that
tried to pull almost all of the scams that's listed on this website. I made sure I knew how much I still owed on my trade-in, what KBB said it was worth, how much the invoice was for the Evo, as well as the holdback on the car (most people don't know about holdback..read up on it at this website!). I had my own financing already set up, knew where I was going to get my 3rd party extended warranty after the purchase and walked in there ready to deal. The people I delt with at
thought I used to sell cars because I knew so much! Needless to say, I got what I wanted for my trade in and got the Evo for the right price....and almost 4 months later my Accord is STILL sitting on their lot.
I'm glad I went the route I did. All you need to do is know what's up and you'll be fine! Goodluck!!
When I purchased my Evo, I traded in my 02 Honda Accord EX after having a for sale sign it it for a few weeks with no real bites. Damn I wanted the Evo and I couldn't wait anymore! I did a little research about purchasing a new vehicle, trading in, etc. and how to make the transaction go MY way. Take a look at this web site http://www.carbuyingtips.com/scams.htm . Go to the bottom of the page where all of the chapters are listed. I read through all of them (yeah, it's a lot of reading, but worth it if you're serious about being "armed" when you walk into the dealer). I must say that
tried to pull almost all of the scams that's listed on this website. I made sure I knew how much I still owed on my trade-in, what KBB said it was worth, how much the invoice was for the Evo, as well as the holdback on the car (most people don't know about holdback..read up on it at this website!). I had my own financing already set up, knew where I was going to get my 3rd party extended warranty after the purchase and walked in there ready to deal. The people I delt with at
thought I used to sell cars because I knew so much! Needless to say, I got what I wanted for my trade in and got the Evo for the right price....and almost 4 months later my Accord is STILL sitting on their lot.
I'm glad I went the route I did. All you need to do is know what's up and you'll be fine! Goodluck!!
Originally posted by Wallet Boy
I usually just go in saying that if they don't give me what I want then I won't be buying my new vehicle from them. 9 times out of 10 they want that new sale so bad that they fold.
When I bought my Evo, I told them up front that they had to buy me out of the car that I had, a 97 Eclipse Spyder. I told them that I owed $8000 on it (I actually owed $3000) and they jumped on it like a hobo on a hotdog. The car was not in good shape and was on the verge of falling apart but they still gave me $8000 for it just to get the Evo sale.
Just don't back down, they'll usually take a hit to make a $30,000 sale.
I usually just go in saying that if they don't give me what I want then I won't be buying my new vehicle from them. 9 times out of 10 they want that new sale so bad that they fold.
When I bought my Evo, I told them up front that they had to buy me out of the car that I had, a 97 Eclipse Spyder. I told them that I owed $8000 on it (I actually owed $3000) and they jumped on it like a hobo on a hotdog. The car was not in good shape and was on the verge of falling apart but they still gave me $8000 for it just to get the Evo sale.
Just don't back down, they'll usually take a hit to make a $30,000 sale.
wow..
What a trip..
Way back in 1997 I bought that domain name (url) www.carbuyingtips.com in order to start a web page to assist the car buying public..
I let the domain name lapse since I hadn't had the time to develope the page and that dude snatched it and started the website..
Oh well.
Great site ! Almost "too much" info though..
Hope that guy doesn't work for a dealership and if he does, I hope they don't pull any of those tactics..and thats how he keeps abreast of the "latest"
What a trip..
Way back in 1997 I bought that domain name (url) www.carbuyingtips.com in order to start a web page to assist the car buying public..
I let the domain name lapse since I hadn't had the time to develope the page and that dude snatched it and started the website..
Oh well.
Great site ! Almost "too much" info though..
Hope that guy doesn't work for a dealership and if he does, I hope they don't pull any of those tactics..and thats how he keeps abreast of the "latest"


