Cams or Turbo? need mod advice
Cams or Turbo? need mod advice
What would be the better mod for my car at this point considering i'm on a tight budget? CAMS (GSC stage1 or HKS 272's something that can work on stock springs) or a TURBO (affordable bolt on 20G or 25G) . Which one would you do if money was a factor and you can only do one at this moment?
Goal is to bring my 1/4 mile Et's down. at the moment my best is 12.8@106mph(NLshifting)but the car runs 13.0 consistently.I do get lots of wheel spin in 1st. The car is an EVO 5 . currently running stock cams and stock turbo td05hr16G6-10.5t.For some reason I cant achieve more than 20psi max on the turbo but boost does not drop off it holds till redline. Engine is a 2.3L w100mm crank and wiseco 9:1 85.5mm forged pistons. I run RC750cc injectors and a walbro255pump.FMIC and Piping Kit,HKS BOV, ECU Apexi Power Fc Ljetro. I have a RS final drive (4.785) and Exedy twin HD as well as LSD rear diff conversion. with these good supporting mods I expected better ET's.
Any advice tips would be appreciated.
Goal is to bring my 1/4 mile Et's down. at the moment my best is 12.8@106mph(NLshifting)but the car runs 13.0 consistently.I do get lots of wheel spin in 1st. The car is an EVO 5 . currently running stock cams and stock turbo td05hr16G6-10.5t.For some reason I cant achieve more than 20psi max on the turbo but boost does not drop off it holds till redline. Engine is a 2.3L w100mm crank and wiseco 9:1 85.5mm forged pistons. I run RC750cc injectors and a walbro255pump.FMIC and Piping Kit,HKS BOV, ECU Apexi Power Fc Ljetro. I have a RS final drive (4.785) and Exedy twin HD as well as LSD rear diff conversion. with these good supporting mods I expected better ET's.
Any advice tips would be appreciated.
100% no doubt a turbo upgrade. Especially if you are going "stage I" cams.
For instance, check my sig, I have stock cams, upgraded to a BBK turbo and picked up ~100hp.
I did a few other upgrades with the turbo but still on stock cams.
bang vs buck, turbo wins every time IMO if you buy it slightly used.
For instance, check my sig, I have stock cams, upgraded to a BBK turbo and picked up ~100hp.
I did a few other upgrades with the turbo but still on stock cams.
bang vs buck, turbo wins every time IMO if you buy it slightly used.
thank you guys .
I thought cams would've added 20-30whp potential with my current setup.
But wow a 100whp from a bolt on bbk is truly bang for buck.
Will definitely do turbo. Eventually will get both done but at the moment Drags are coming up soon and im on a budget.
Thank Again
I thought cams would've added 20-30whp potential with my current setup.
But wow a 100whp from a bolt on bbk is truly bang for buck.
Will definitely do turbo. Eventually will get both done but at the moment Drags are coming up soon and im on a budget.
Thank Again
HMMM few hundred at best for cams....used. BBK, no longer made at least 1k for something that works and my guess somewhat more. OP--so your on a budget and moneys tight, exactly what is you budget if these two are possibilities--- that would help a great deal.
did i miss a budget?
cams i recommend gsc s2, still works with stock springs just dont rev high, u have a 2.3 anyways.
like 450 plus install labor of 200-400, plus retune 300-500.
turbo- bbk full is what i really like (but couldnt find att), roughly 900-1200 used. plus retune 300-500, u might run out of injector.
another popular one is the FP green, i love the 71hta but i think it is too small for your build
so if u were able to find good deals, the turbo will be better for your motor as for best bang for buck. cams are great, but i got really annoyed of the lope.
cams i recommend gsc s2, still works with stock springs just dont rev high, u have a 2.3 anyways.
like 450 plus install labor of 200-400, plus retune 300-500.
turbo- bbk full is what i really like (but couldnt find att), roughly 900-1200 used. plus retune 300-500, u might run out of injector.
another popular one is the FP green, i love the 71hta but i think it is too small for your build
so if u were able to find good deals, the turbo will be better for your motor as for best bang for buck. cams are great, but i got really annoyed of the lope.
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LOL i hope you are being sarcastic. anywho, if on a budget, i would do cams. IMO turbo is the last thing i would do after getting all the supporting mods in first.
my budget is $1200US MAX I know that's pretty low for You in the US. But in my country all car parts used or new is taxed 65% + another 15% VAT. Cars are taxed at 167.5% so things cost way more to have here than over there.
I can get some used cams in the used parts section for $275-$300.
HKS 272's, GSC s1's or BC272.
I've posted a Wanted post for a Kinugawa 25G or Arashi ER turbocharger Used or NEw or for a used JB red. An option as well would be to get this CHRA +Upgradekit and re-use my 10.5 housing on it just will have to get it machined for the td06sl2 http://shopping.kinugawaturbo.com/ki...r-20g-1-1.aspx
I need more power for the drags in JUNE, if I cant find a turbo in a week or 2 will have to go with the CAMS . I cant show up running 12.8 again , My competition R33 GTR did a 12.2 yesterday.
I can get some used cams in the used parts section for $275-$300.
HKS 272's, GSC s1's or BC272.
I've posted a Wanted post for a Kinugawa 25G or Arashi ER turbocharger Used or NEw or for a used JB red. An option as well would be to get this CHRA +Upgradekit and re-use my 10.5 housing on it just will have to get it machined for the td06sl2 http://shopping.kinugawaturbo.com/ki...r-20g-1-1.aspx
I need more power for the drags in JUNE, if I cant find a turbo in a week or 2 will have to go with the CAMS . I cant show up running 12.8 again , My competition R33 GTR did a 12.2 yesterday.







