Therein lies the issue. People like the seller that screwed evoG8r screw people like you who may be legit. You can't trust ANYBODY online. People lie all the time. Not saying you are but bottom line is if anyone says their EVO is stock......you have to take it with a grain of salt and hope they are telling the truth but go into it skeptical as hell. If certain things look like they have never been removed then more then likely they are telling the truth.

People can be surprisingly creative and unscrupulous when it comes to selling cars and disclosing info that can be used to hurt their sales.

 

This is also the same reason i would not buy most used parts or even someone calling the parts new

 

I used to be able sell my used stuff so quick on here. It was reasonably priced and I always took pics that showed exactly the level of condition it was in.

Now I don't even bother trying to sell on here. Too many cheapskates and low ballers. Comparing quality parts to ebay knock offs or cheaper brands.

 

These cars have become modern day DSMs. Everyone cheaping out causing a maintenance nightmare for someone that gives a crap down the road. At least whoever gets my car will get something, while not perfect, is going to be a decently reliable car.

I have really enjoyed driving the Evo this week despite still having some issues. It's still leaking a tiny bit of oil and the handling is a little bit squirrelly, which I think is due to slight positive camber in the alignment that I need to address (upgraded whiteline RCK).

 

Yeah you are right you cannot trust people when you buy a used car from them thats why you gotta get it from a dealer with warranty. I gave up on used cars, I bought my Evo new, whoever will get it is a lucky bastard, but If it wont sell, I will be happier and drive it myself.

 

Actually the trouble I;ve had selling parts (not just Evo parts but Subaru and CBR parts) has gotten me to the point now where i just prefer to keep my crap. Not worth getting nickeled and dimed on everything. Its also one of the reasons why I don't really want to sell my Evo. Don't want to deal with tire kickers and people who clearly dont value the car and will try to low ball.

Low Ballers are uber disrespectful to me......especially after I say NO LOW BALLERS. Makes me want to chop someone in the throat.

 

that sucks man, I bought my 03 w/ 80k miles for 14. head was "built" with all receipts. drove it home. found all the parts I had receipts for in the fs classifieds 2 weeks later. spun rod bearings 2 months later while daily driving and waiting for a tune (piece of mind). Lots of other things as well, but i'm about 28k deep in a car that's worth 17 at best. After all is said and done, I should have looked it over more, and I cant directly blame engine failure on the seller. But it'll be running with a built 2.3 in a week "or so". Live and learn, at least in the end you can say that you built it!

 

Not to **** you off..............BUT DUDE. That seller was a big liar. Sold your parts that you supposed to have. Thats super dishonest.

 

The old guy I bought my Nissan army truck from was 100% honest.
* Told me everything that needed servicing on the car, then proceeded to perform said servicing so I did not have to.
* Gave me a list of honest mechanics and sources for parts. Told me to call him if I ever felt like I was being screwed.
* Refused a substantially higher offer for the car, made after he accepted mine. My price was so far below market friends thought the car was hot (it was not).
* Put me in touch with people to bribe when arranging registration (in Ukraine, this is impossible without paying bribes, but you gotta know whom to grease and how much). He paid some other bribes himself with regard to confirming that the proper engine block was in the car (don't ask).
*Refused to hand the keys over, until I had demonstrated mastery of startup and maintenance procedures.
*Called several times after the sale to confirm all was OK with the car, police didn't rob me, etc..

If every used car seller were as honest as Mikhail Nikolaevich, no one would bother buying new cars.

 

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Oh you don't have to tell me, but what can you do. I've had my grief over it, at a certain point you just have to turn it into a learning experience. If I were to do it over again, I would buy a shell. No engine, no trans, no transfer case. This should be a huge lesson to anyone buying a built car that has receipts, I know it was to me.

 

I am looking for an EVO right now. This thread opened my eyes; I am going to be really careful when I found an EVO I like.

Thanks for posting OP

 

Honestly the BEST thing to do for anyone who is buying an Evo is have a independent 3rd party/shop look over the car and tell you what condition its in.

Engine parts are a crap shoot. How can you tell if you have the aftermarket cams the seller says you are supposed to get even if you scope it.

 

I'm about to purchase an EVO as well and am truly grateful for you posting your experience with us. I was well prepared to purchase a built EVO with an independent third party mechanical inspection however now I'm starting to realize I may be better off purchasing a stock EVO from a dealer with warranty and low kms.

 

Thats not always a slam dunk either. They may not have done their homework (dealership). And depending on the dealership and your states lemon laws you may end up in almost the same situation.

Built or not you need to take whatever potential evo to a REPUTABLE evo shop. Have them do leak down/Compression test, put in the air, test the electrical system. There is no such thing as a cheap evo. If its cheap it needs work. Hell if its pricey it may still need work.

have money on hand to fix issues. Thats the only way you can guarantee not having problems. You could get lucky. I would err on the side of caution.