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Old Jan 7, 2017 | 11:09 PM
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I heard it's all around easier to modify the evo platform but evo's are more costly stock than a Subaru. So although it's more expensive to build a stock subbie would I save money since it's a cheaper stock car? Or do they kind of balance out? Also are evos truly reliable I would hate to invest a lot of money into a car to see it take a crap at 100k miles
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Old Jan 8, 2017 | 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Sith Lord
I heard it's all around easier to modify the evo platform but evo's are more costly stock than a Subaru.
More costly in what way? Maintenance? To modify? Easier? Maybe. IMO, all the parts are easier to get to and work on.

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So although it's more expensive to build a stock subbie would I save money since it's a cheaper stock car? Or do they kind of balance out? Also are evos truly reliable I would hate to invest a lot of money into a car to see it take a crap at 100k miles
1. You say you heard the Evo is more costly but now the Subaru? I'm confused. I'm not exactly sure what you are asking. Anyway, if you are asking which is cheaper in the long run: neither. You will dump all your money into either, but the Evo will be faster (dollar for dollar) and more reliable (after modding, possibly before).

2. Evos are as reliable as any car as long as you maintain it correctly and don't get ridiculous with modifications. Maintenance is more, as there are more moving parts and fluids than a non-AWD car.

A car will only take a crap at 100k if you ignore #2.
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Old Jan 8, 2017 | 06:03 AM
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Its a bit difficult to maintain any turbo charged car if you are on a strict budget.

Some times parts fail unexpectedly but that can happen with any other car.
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Old Jan 8, 2017 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by kaj
More costly in what way? Maintenance? To modify? Easier? Maybe. IMO, all the parts are easier to get to and work on.



1. You say you heard the Evo is more costly but now the Subaru? I'm confused. I'm not exactly sure what you are asking. Anyway, if you are asking which is cheaper in the long run: neither. You will dump all your money into either, but the Evo will be faster (dollar for dollar) and more reliable (after modding, possibly before).

2. Evos are as reliable as any car as long as you maintain it correctly and don't get ridiculous with modifications. Maintenance is more, as there are more moving parts and fluids than a non-AWD car.

A car will only take a crap at 100k if you ignore #2.
You forgot one buddy, the more power you make the more easily it will break. So with that said, I know buddys who own Subaru's and they are a pain in the *** to modify, everything you have to buy is way more expensive in my opinion, for instance cams, you have 4 cams in a Subaru where you only have 2 in an evo. Evo will make more power due to way better engine design, it has been proven time and time again, and as far as reliable? Well as long as you don't do things cheaply and cut corners you should be fine. That goes with any car not just evos.
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Old Jan 8, 2017 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by cursedsm
You forgot one buddy, the more power you make the more easily it will break
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Evos are as reliable as any car as long as you maintain it correctly and don't get ridiculous with modifications.
Got ya covered.

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for instance cams, you have 4 cams in a Subaru where you only have 2 in an evo.
I haven't owned a Subaru in a while, but I could swear cams, exhaust manifolds/headers, etc. were the same price
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Old Jan 8, 2017 | 04:39 PM
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I haven't owned a Subaru in a while, but I could swear cams, exhaust manifolds/headers, etc. were the same price
lol GSC cams "stage 1" $892, Perrin exhaust mani $852, Evo s1 cams $599, Fp mani $325, All prices from extreme psi
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Old Jan 8, 2017 | 06:46 PM
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lol GSC cams "stage 1" $892, Perrin exhaust mani $852, Evo s1 cams $599, Fp mani $325, All prices from extreme psi
I probably bought used stuff for mine. I remember it being pretty reasonable. All that money to make less power and break sooner. That's rough.
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Old Jan 8, 2017 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by kaj
More costly in what way? Maintenance? To modify? Easier? Maybe. IMO, all the parts are easier to get to and work on.



1. You say you heard the Evo is more costly but now the Subaru? I'm confused. I'm not exactly sure what you are asking. Anyway, if you are asking which is cheaper in the long run: neither. You will dump all your money into either, but the Evo will be faster (dollar for dollar) and more reliable (after modding, possibly before).

2. Evos are as reliable as any car as long as you maintain it correctly and don't get ridiculous with modifications. Maintenance is more, as there are more moving parts and fluids than a non-AWD car.

A car will only take a crap at 100k if you ignore #2.
Referring to #1 I was saying a stock Subaru car is cheaper than a stock evo car but I heard a Subaru platform is more expensive to modify than an evo platform. Sorry for the confusion. so that being said I'm curious which of the two will be less money out of my pocket in the long run including (buying the car & modifying it).
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Old Jan 8, 2017 | 10:06 PM
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Stock block evo 500 hp capable.
Stock block Subaru 500 hp ring land destruction.
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Old Jan 8, 2017 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 4b11slayer
Stock block evo 500 hp capable.
Stock block Subaru 500 hp ring land destruction.
Dont forget the cracked up sleeves and block.
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Old Jan 9, 2017 | 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Sith Lord
Referring to #1 I was saying a stock Subaru car is cheaper than a stock evo car but I heard a Subaru platform is more expensive to modify than an evo platform. Sorry for the confusion. so that being said I'm curious which of the two will be less money out of my pocket in the long run including (buying the car & modifying it).
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Not to discourage you but if your worried about **** breaking between the 2 cars then i would suggest you keep driving what your driving and not worry about it. People try all the time to drive awd cars like rwd cars and break stuff and all of a sudden these cars are garbage. Either way your going to have some expense one way or another to drive either car.
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Old Jan 9, 2017 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Sith Lord
Referring to #1 I was saying a stock Subaru car is cheaper than a stock evo car but I heard a Subaru platform is more expensive to modify than an evo platform. Sorry for the confusion. so that being said I'm curious which of the two will be less money out of my pocket in the long run including (buying the car & modifying it).
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The Evo needs less to be faster and/or make more power, if that is what you are after.

I don't think either will be less money. Without having a specific goal (you haven't mentioned one), there is no end. You will put all your money into either one. Or at least that's how it is for 99% of us. In that respect, neither is cheaper.

Assuming you are shopping an STi, I believe they are cheaper than an Evo these days (I haven't checked in a while). The STi has always had engine reliability issues, sometimes even when stock. If you are planning to mod a car more than light bolt ons, that is something to consider.
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Old Jan 9, 2017 | 09:33 AM
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Not to discourage you but if your worried about **** breaking between the 2 cars then i would suggest you keep driving what your driving and not worry about it.
If that were the case, I'd never own a car. I always worry bout stuff breaking and consider reliability when buying a car. That's why I daily a Civic LOL
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Old Jan 9, 2017 | 11:21 AM
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Honestly, to try and figure out dollar per dollar which is going to be more expensive you would have to have a goal in mind.
Like 12.0 sec 1/4 mile
Or 350awhp....400awhp+ is where your costs are going to significantly differ (IIRC)

then you could add the modifications/$ to get there vs either or.

What years are you looking for? How many miles?
There are so many factors and you asked a super generic question.

Like most have stated... eventually, it will be a lot of money no matter what.
With engine concerns on an STi , I could never own one, however, I do still like them a lot.
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Old Jan 9, 2017 | 02:43 PM
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With engine concerns on an STi , I could never own one, however, I do still like them a lot.
Sigh. I do agree with this statement.
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