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Old May 4, 2017 | 08:41 AM
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Bolt in Roll Cage Safety?

Guys are there any bolt in roll cages or bars of any type that will actually increase the safety level of the vehicle? I'm talking something for the street just to improve everyday driving/accident safety. My wife is worried about me driving this "small kids car" around and compared to my F250 daily I see her point.

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Old May 4, 2017 | 08:51 AM
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Most of us track day guys are running the bars in this thread below

If you have any questions, please ask them in that thread & will be happy to assist

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/mo...ar-thread.html
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Old May 4, 2017 | 09:03 AM
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Are you going to be wearing a helmet while driving? If not I wouldn't recommend installing anything for "safety" reasons. The sanctioning bodies that make the rules about cages/bars/hoops all require certain areas to be close to The drivers head.
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Old May 4, 2017 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by KentStateTsi
Are you going to be wearing a helmet while driving? If not I wouldn't recommend installing anything for "safety" reasons. The sanctioning bodies that make the rules about cages/bars/hoops all require certain areas to be close to The drivers head.
This.

A cage doesn't improve safety, it combines a lot of different factors to improve safety.

Cages don't belong on the street.
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Old May 4, 2017 | 12:42 PM
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Ok thanks, let me ask this then. Would it be "safe" to add a cheap harness bar only to mount a GoPro too? I guess I could imagine it breaking in an impact owns putting a nice hole in my head.
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Old May 4, 2017 | 12:50 PM
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You noted a cage & those guys jumped your ship

I run a rear roll bar. It does offer the following IMO: Some side impact protection, roll over protection & noticeably stiffens the chassis

There maybe a scenario, depending on the type of impact, that your head could hit the roll bar in which that would not be good

Running a full cage on a street car is not advised. A roll bar is a bit different
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Old May 4, 2017 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MinusPrevious
You noted a cage & those guys jumped your ship

I run a rear roll bar. It does offer the following IMO: Some side impact protection, roll over protection & noticeably stiffens the chassis

There maybe a scenario, depending on the type of impact, that your head could hit the roll bar in which that would not be good

Running a full cage on a street car is not advised. A roll bar is a bit different
This is a better way to put it. The head impact is the kicker

A harness bar is fine, it's not going to hurt anything except the people in the back seat. A rear roll bar is probably fine but you should at least pad it around your head as a just in case

all that said, harnesses should never be run on the street, and should arguably never be run without a neck brace like a Hans device that keeps your next from hyper-extending/snapping
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Old May 4, 2017 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MinusPrevious
You noted a cage & those guys jumped your ship

I run a rear roll bar. It does offer the following IMO: Some side impact protection, roll over protection & noticeably stiffens the chassis

There maybe a scenario, depending on the type of impact, that your head could hit the roll bar in which that would not be good

Running a full cage on a street car is not advised. A roll bar is a bit different
Rear roll bar as in rear roll cage or just the harness bar?

* Nevermind I understand what you're saying. Thanks guys.
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Old May 4, 2017 | 03:49 PM
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Roll bars are fine on the street, roll cages are not. Bolt-ins are fine as long as they don't bolt together at the joints. Autopower is a good example. The joints are welded and only the straight sections bolt together.

Harness bars are only used to get the harness to come off your shoulder at the right angle. Not meant to actually mount the harness to.
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