Stupid Mitsu doesn't wanna fix my broken Transfer Case
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I don't doubt that there may be a bigger issue with the TC, but the point is absolutely MOOT in this discussion because the guy put that clutch in.
if the TC issue is SO wide-spread and well-known, why did he go and put more strain on the TC? He should have known it would blow and left the stock clutch in, blown it, and gotten a new, possibly factory improved TC.
if the TC issue is SO wide-spread and well-known, why did he go and put more strain on the TC? He should have known it would blow and left the stock clutch in, blown it, and gotten a new, possibly factory improved TC.
Last edited by Speedlimit; Apr 11, 2004 at 08:49 PM.
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Been there done that. My clutch went out at around 7,500 miles it took me 3 weeks to get my car back and I got the clutch replaced with a exedy hypersingle for a nice charge of $1,000 thanks mitsubishi, now let me bend over and take another one. Then within 3,000 miles my syncro in 4th gear and my transfer case was screwed up and the dealership I took it to told me I would need a new transmission and transfer case and it wasnt warrantied. I took it to another dealership got it covered under warranty and had it back within a week. Now my car is for sale, i'm done with the Evo and anything to deal with Mitsubishi.
Originally posted by alex_alex
Jesus f---king christ. Quick pointer to everyone on here that tries to argue some point or another. Namecalling is not persuaive. Its embarassing. It makes people lose respect for anything that comes out of your mouth.
That being said, ill try to simplify this one again for those that don't understand. The point is NOT that the transfer case was DEFINATELY broken by the clutch. The point is that the clutch greatly increased the chances that the t-case would ACTUALLY break.
You, grod101, are obviously in a better position that he is b/c you actually left your **** stock. But even then, at the point where the t-case failure isn't happening to everyone, or even to a substantial amount of people (poll it if you don't believe me), it is still very likely that the failure is attributable to driver error or abuse. Naturally, every single person on here that breaks his t-case is going to deny that he can't drive, but you and i both know its an ego-fest on here, so i don't expect you to admit anything. But, if you want to keep your next t-case from breaking, you might want to think twice about how you drive your car, and maybe learn from someone else.
But back to the main point. The issue is that he put in a part that greatly increased the chance of the t-case breaking. This is enough for the dealer to deny a claim. Try to follow me here:
Does anyone remember the crankwalking problems with the 2g? You want to know why Mitsu never gave a rats *** about it on a large scale? b/c most people that suffered from crank walk already had mods in their car. That is directly analogous to the situation here. It didn't matter that the mods didn't cause the crankwalking.
do we understand a little more now?
Jesus f---king christ. Quick pointer to everyone on here that tries to argue some point or another. Namecalling is not persuaive. Its embarassing. It makes people lose respect for anything that comes out of your mouth.
That being said, ill try to simplify this one again for those that don't understand. The point is NOT that the transfer case was DEFINATELY broken by the clutch. The point is that the clutch greatly increased the chances that the t-case would ACTUALLY break.
You, grod101, are obviously in a better position that he is b/c you actually left your **** stock. But even then, at the point where the t-case failure isn't happening to everyone, or even to a substantial amount of people (poll it if you don't believe me), it is still very likely that the failure is attributable to driver error or abuse. Naturally, every single person on here that breaks his t-case is going to deny that he can't drive, but you and i both know its an ego-fest on here, so i don't expect you to admit anything. But, if you want to keep your next t-case from breaking, you might want to think twice about how you drive your car, and maybe learn from someone else.
But back to the main point. The issue is that he put in a part that greatly increased the chance of the t-case breaking. This is enough for the dealer to deny a claim. Try to follow me here:
Does anyone remember the crankwalking problems with the 2g? You want to know why Mitsu never gave a rats *** about it on a large scale? b/c most people that suffered from crank walk already had mods in their car. That is directly analogous to the situation here. It didn't matter that the mods didn't cause the crankwalking.
do we understand a little more now?
I would drive circles around you....... You don't know my experience in driving..... I had never launched my car... It was making the noise from day one..... so assuming that everyone was launching their cars or beating on them is your Mistake...
I'm not some Kid here so don't go assuming that I am..... You guys keep making statement with out PROOF to back it up... I'm not trying to cause waves here but it seems your quick to jump down his throat to say that he caused it... When in fact if his TC was going to go it would have went either way.... stock clutch or aftermarket..... It seems that is was defective and was going anyway.... A TC is suppose to take about 200,000 miles of abuse before even coming close to failure.... If you worked on cars you might know this.... I'm not your weekend tuner here buddy...
So as I said don't just assume........ bring your FACTS to the table if you want to play the game......
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Grod, Just in case there is a chance of you comprehending a real point, I'll give this another shot.
You said above
Well, nothing. YOU are the only one talking about a defective part. I'm NOT arguing that there may be defective TC's out there, ok? You win that argument buddy!
My point is that the "defective" argument has NO relevance to this guy's situation because he replaced the clutch with a stronger unit. Once you do that, you lose ALL rights and ability to claim anything under the guise of warranty work.
I'll just let that stand. You've ruined your credibility far more than I ever could.
You said above
And what the does this have anything to do with a DEFECTIVE PART!!!!!!!!!!!!! If there is a defective from the factory they should fix the problem
My point is that the "defective" argument has NO relevance to this guy's situation because he replaced the clutch with a stronger unit. Once you do that, you lose ALL rights and ability to claim anything under the guise of warranty work.
Just hope that your TC doesn't go... and if it does I hope you go through more hell than anyone else... just for talking crap..............
Are you the same guy with a blown TC with the missing transfer case drainplug after having a shop install an aftermarket clutch who posted on Socalevo.net ?
http://www.socalevo.net/forums/viewt...9464f009b1e5dd
http://www.socalevo.net/forums/viewt...9464f009b1e5dd
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To emphasize with Speedlimit said, this post is in on thin ice. Way too much bickering and name calling going on. It is not an absolute fact that the transfer case has a defect, because the D.O.T would be all over it. I'm willing to bet that mods or stock, the number affected is less than 3%. I wish everyone luck with getting a transfer case replaced if your car is low mileage and nearly stock, as it should be covered. Let's just keep it civil.
eh its your problem...if you kept your car stock and it broke then they would have to replace it. i really dislike people that increase their HP and TQ and when something breaks they expect it to still be warrentied.
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it seems on this board that
1. the driver is blame for anything wrong with the evo
2. if you stand up for your right to have mitsu fix what broke you are wrong
3. if you have and evo you abuse it
this just seems weak, too me I woudl love a Evo but right now I am not going to get one I am going to wait till all this first year car stuff gets worked out. I really feel soory for those that bought a 30k car and have had to pay out to fix what may or may not have been there fault.
1. the driver is blame for anything wrong with the evo
2. if you stand up for your right to have mitsu fix what broke you are wrong
3. if you have and evo you abuse it
this just seems weak, too me I woudl love a Evo but right now I am not going to get one I am going to wait till all this first year car stuff gets worked out. I really feel soory for those that bought a 30k car and have had to pay out to fix what may or may not have been there fault.
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Deacon, the guy said he installed a twin disk clutch. This is the 8th (hence the name Evo 8) iteration of the car, not the first.
I also deepy empathize with those who have legit warranty claims and can't get them honored. IT'S A SIMPLE FACT THAT A LARGE AMOUNT OF ILLEGITIMATE ATTEMPTS FOR WARRANTY COVERAGE SCREW OVER THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE LEGIT WARRANTY CLAIMS.
-Which is why I'm chiming in with my thoughts, which can be summarized by saying "If you added power or strengthened certain parts, Mitsu is NOT obligated to fix the other parts that broke as a result. Leave the warranty claims for people with stock cars and legitimate breakage issues."
I also deepy empathize with those who have legit warranty claims and can't get them honored. IT'S A SIMPLE FACT THAT A LARGE AMOUNT OF ILLEGITIMATE ATTEMPTS FOR WARRANTY COVERAGE SCREW OVER THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE LEGIT WARRANTY CLAIMS.
-Which is why I'm chiming in with my thoughts, which can be summarized by saying "If you added power or strengthened certain parts, Mitsu is NOT obligated to fix the other parts that broke as a result. Leave the warranty claims for people with stock cars and legitimate breakage issues."
Originally posted by Google
To emphasize with Speedlimit said, this post is in on thin ice. Way too much bickering and name calling going on. It is not an absolute fact that the transfer case has a defect, because the D.O.T would be all over it. I'm willing to bet that mods or stock, the number affected is less than 3%. I wish everyone luck with getting a transfer case replaced if your car is low mileage and nearly stock, as it should be covered. Let's just keep it civil.
To emphasize with Speedlimit said, this post is in on thin ice. Way too much bickering and name calling going on. It is not an absolute fact that the transfer case has a defect, because the D.O.T would be all over it. I'm willing to bet that mods or stock, the number affected is less than 3%. I wish everyone luck with getting a transfer case replaced if your car is low mileage and nearly stock, as it should be covered. Let's just keep it civil.
And doesn't matter if it has low miles or not... If you have a warr they have to replace it...... There are laws out there that are their to protect you.... Just get your lawyer and you will have a new TC.... They have to PROVE with FACTS that the specific part failed because of the new part you installed in order to deny your claim.,..... and if they can't they must give you the new part.... BOTTOM LINE..............
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Grod, do you have any statistical proof showing the actual percentage of TC failure?
What about the insider info on Mitsu that you say you have... where did you get this and how are we to know this is true?
You seem to be all about Mitsu proving their cause beyond a reasonable doubt, how about you doing the same here?
What about the insider info on Mitsu that you say you have... where did you get this and how are we to know this is true?
You seem to be all about Mitsu proving their cause beyond a reasonable doubt, how about you doing the same here?
turbocake.... If you want to come out here to NJ you can talk to the people that work for mitsu motors HQ.... Other than that I have nothing to prove to you... I got the info from the horses mouth... Where did you get yours?
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This is ridiculous. This guy has all sorts of mods besides a damn twin-plate clutch that would screw him as far as warranty goes. A boost controller, you can't tell me that isn't an item that won't void powertrain warranties. Also why did you replace the clutch to begin with? Burned out? Couldn't handle the increased power? That should tell you something. You start upping the strength of certain parts and you are going to start finding the weakness' of others. These cars are built to a certain spec. and are expected to operate in that range. If you want warranty work leave the car the hell alone. You can't expect a company to warranty things when there are other parts from other companies on the vehicle. They are parts that are not figured into the equasion when designing the car. My veiw of mitsubishi has been drasticly improved by my dealings with them compared to what I have read on these boards. I had a legitamate problem with my car, Mits. bought it back gave me a new one end of story. I still had to prove that my turbo timer wasn't at all related to the problem the car had. I believe it is claims like this that make it so hard to get Mits to take care of business. If you are putting a part on a car and are not sure of the possible effects it may have maybe you shouldn't be putting them on. You new the positive effects of these parts I'm sure or you would not have put them on in the first place. You didn't think there was a possible downside? Whether it was a manufacture defect or your driving style or your clutch your still screwed because your parts void Mitsubishi's responsibilty to warranty it's parts.
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