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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 10:16 AM
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Any reason to use 100 octane fuel in a stock Evo?

I've done some searching on this forum and I can't seem to come up with a clear answer.

Is there any reason to use a mixture of "Cali" 91 octane with 100 octane if your Evo is stock?

Will the stock ECU adjust timing and A/F on it's own...without a reflash?

Does this mixture of octanes produce any horsepower gains?
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 10:28 AM
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In many cases, an Evo running on 91 octane pulls timing to keep bad things from happening to the motor. Upping the octane to 93-95 by mixing in some 100 octane is a good way to keep the ecu from feeling the need to pull timing. So yes, it does make a difference, if your only other choice is 91 octane.

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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 10:30 AM
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more octane in an evo = huge power gains. But its not cheap. Use Xylene, for 10 dollars u get 1 gallon at home depot and u mix it in with a full tank to get near 93 octane or half a tank for near 100.
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by XRS-Lift
more octane in an evo = huge power gains. But its not cheap. Use Xylene, for 10 dollars u get 1 gallon at home depot and u mix it in with a full tank to get near 93 octane or half a tank for near 100.
Just to clarify, the stock ECU will not try to take advantage of more than ~93 octane. You will need some kind of aftermarket tuning to see the big gains with higher octane gas.
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 10:44 AM
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Thanks for the input. So, the stock ECU will not adjust for higher than 93 octane. Therefore, a tank of 100 is just wasted cash?
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 10:57 AM
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I ran a tank of 100 octane Sunoco GT100 last October. I didn't notice any butt-dyno difference in the car. But when the tank got low, and I filled up with 93 octane Exxon, the car ran terribly for a few miles. The ECU, engine, etc., were strictly stock except for a Buschur axle-back exhaust.

I believe the stock ECU did "re-train" to the higher octane. I have no other explanation for why the car which had been running great on 93 octane for six months decided to act (at least for a few miles) like I was feeding it diesel fuel or something...
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by livesports
Thanks for the input. So, the stock ECU will not adjust for higher than 93 octane. Therefore, a tank of 100 is just wasted cash?
A 3:1 mix of cali 91 and 100 would be good (~94 octane). A full tank of 100 would be a big waste of cash.

IMO, of course.
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 09:53 AM
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no imho there's no reason to run 100oct unles you get a S-AFC, dynoflash, or something to lean out the A/F ratio (stock is like 9.1 so 100oct is a waste)
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 04:02 PM
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Race fuel allows you to run a tad leaner than normal... So you can up the boost a tad more with the higher octane without detonating.... It does help... Just buy 2 gallons of tolulene from Sherwin Williams and bump your car up to 21-22psi... 2 ways to lean your car out... tuning or upping the boost!!!
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