Getting New Evo. Need to Know things.
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Originally Posted by GreenFox
Makes sense. Thanks for the advice. Now that that's addressed. I was wondering how good the stock 6-speaker stereo system is? I have a Honda 2003 pilot, and I am satisfied with its output. I'm not looking for ear-deafening bass or treble, but something decent. Also, would changing the head-unit void anything? I heard that having a head-unit and putting the head-unit's treble and bass to max might blow the stock speakers. Is this true?
Also, how is the option infinity speaker system and how much is it as an option?
Also, how is the option infinity speaker system and how much is it as an option?
I'm not sure on how to rate the stock system quality, and I haven't heard the 04 Infinity system.
But about the head unit, I don't think anyone's that strict to void something based on a head unit. Unless it appears that something was directly affected by the install of the head unit, which probably won't happen.
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well, i have been talking to dealer ship about the MR. they said that since the 2004 just came out this month, the 2005 model (include MR) WOULD be release in a year. there is no point for mitsubishi to release to release 2005 lease than 1 year or 2004 release. i am still debating if i should get the 2004 or wait for the MR ..
maybe mid 30s or more im guessing..? those trunk badges you can get from places like www.lancershop.com or any other evo sites. but i was just wondering why you would want to put so many vinyls on your car, it ll totally mess up how it looks, but thats just my opinion, hope you get your evo!
Get the evo but you are going to curse a lot a year from now if you lease it. It is that special of a car, warts(warranty, paint etc.) and all. Owning an evo is an awesome experience but owning a highly modified evo in the 450+ range is superlative. MR? What MR! I look forward to having fun when they start showing up...
You cannot go back.
Besides, you will find yourself adding stuff:
You cannot go back.
Besides, you will find yourself adding stuff:
Last edited by gt40; Jun 18, 2004 at 01:39 AM.
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Quote:There are some problems BUT for the majority of people I think they are pretty solid. With the exception of my 5th gear synchro(revised for the 04 models) It runs like a champ.
My evo is in the shop gettin the same problem fixed.I guess i'm not the only 1.Can't wait to get my car back!
Quote:There are some problems BUT for the majority of people I think they are pretty solid. With the exception of my 5th gear synchro(revised for the 04 models) It runs like a champ.
My evo is in the shop gettin the same problem fixed.I guess i'm not the only 1.Can't wait to get my car back!
had my car since march, and my only complaints thus far? Brake dust on the wheels. That's it. It's a SUPER car.. and i agree with what most are saying. You're gonna pay if you wanna play. If you mod or race, expect to burn out your clutch, possibly damage your drivetrain, and have trouble with warranty work.
Drive it stock and i think you'll be fine. However.. I urge you not to spend much time on this board. The urge to mod is hard to fight off when you dig deep on this board....
good luck.
Drive it stock and i think you'll be fine. However.. I urge you not to spend much time on this board. The urge to mod is hard to fight off when you dig deep on this board....
good luck.
Let me just say this GreenFox... When you're driving an Evo, NOTHING can get you down. You're practically on top of the world. I wouldn't feel better driving a Lexus or Benz. The paint thing really pisses me off, though. I want mine to look new for years to come. I don't want people to look at it, and say, "That was once a nice looking car", I want them to drop their jaw every time. Other than that, I love the car man! Yes, the Evo is a very limited production car. I'd guess there are only a few thousand in the U.S. total. I though it was really cool when last Saturday at a local car-club locale there were four Evos in a row. It was a beautiful site. Hopefully, we'll all be there again tonight or tomorrow, and I'll have my digital camera with me! Oh, and I agree, leasing an Evo is not the best way to go. You'll want to drive it like it was stolen, or at least like you own it and don't care what happens. Try to find a way to make a loan work for you. Monthly cost will be about the same, and you'll get to enjoy it longer!
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I seriously considered purchasing an RX-8 before getting my Evo, so I am quite familiar with the car, having driven it many times. The RX-8 is a very nice automobile, and quite sharp-looking. Here are a few things to consider:
1. Lease rates for RX-8s are far more attractive than Evos. The Evo's depreciation rate is dreadful: residual of 39% after 36 months versus the RX-8's residual of about 56%. Your downpayment can be lower with the Mazda and your monthly payment less as well. Our local dealers won't even entertain a lease on the Evo -- it doesn't make economic sense to do so and is a better choice to just buy and finance the old fashioned way.
2. The back seat room on the RX-8 is remarkable for such a small car, but the Evo's back seat with four proper doors is superior. This was an important point for me, as I have to haul my kids around with me. Judging by your posts, this probably isn't a big deal for you.
3. Complaints about the RX-8 range from poor gas mileage (18 MPG is about the average), accelerated oil consumption (inherent in the rotary engine design), a lousy stereo (Bose -- what else would you expect?), and minimal torque. You really have to gun that little engine and make it scream before you get any kind of feeling of decent acceleration. The Evo, by comparision, is scary fast and a real adrenaline rush the first time you punch it.
4. Handling on the RX-8 is superb because of the 50/50 weight balance, light weight, rear wheel drive, and big grippy tires. The Evo is good, too, but with a different dynamic because of the all wheel drive and 60/40 weight balance.
5. I'm pretty big (6'3") and felt slightly claustrophic in sunroof-equipped RX-8s. I always felt uncomfortable with that A-pillar just a few inches away from my face. The Evo's upright seating position, excellent sight lines (except for the view out the back blocked by the big wing), and Recaro seat just feel better to me.
Both are driver's cars, and both are very capable machines. Their philosophies are quite different. You get more refinement with the Mazda, but at the expense of all-out raw performance. You got to work to get your heart pumping in the RX-8, whereas the
Evo always feels like a barely broken bronco: dangerous but attractive. Mazda is hoping to sell about 30,000 RX-8s in the first year, so the car will become a lot more ubiquitous than the 5700 or so Evos that have been sold. Just going by JD Powers numbers, you would expect the Mazda to be a bit more reliable in the long run than the Evo, but the first year of experiences seen here in evolutionm.net have shown the Mitsubishi to be a pretty well-made car. Sure, people have had burned out clutches, but that seems, in most cases, to over-eager owners. The Evo, despite its capabilities, is not a drag-racer. Is a Mazda dealer and service better than a Mitsu dealer and service? Maybe. And the corporation's woes are troublesome, whereas Mazda is being nursed back to health under Ford's guidance.
You want to lease the car and turn it in at the end. That means little to no modifications. You need a commuter car with the occasionaly mountain run. Sounds to me that the RX-8 might be the better the choice, but of course, that is for you decide.
1. Lease rates for RX-8s are far more attractive than Evos. The Evo's depreciation rate is dreadful: residual of 39% after 36 months versus the RX-8's residual of about 56%. Your downpayment can be lower with the Mazda and your monthly payment less as well. Our local dealers won't even entertain a lease on the Evo -- it doesn't make economic sense to do so and is a better choice to just buy and finance the old fashioned way.
2. The back seat room on the RX-8 is remarkable for such a small car, but the Evo's back seat with four proper doors is superior. This was an important point for me, as I have to haul my kids around with me. Judging by your posts, this probably isn't a big deal for you.
3. Complaints about the RX-8 range from poor gas mileage (18 MPG is about the average), accelerated oil consumption (inherent in the rotary engine design), a lousy stereo (Bose -- what else would you expect?), and minimal torque. You really have to gun that little engine and make it scream before you get any kind of feeling of decent acceleration. The Evo, by comparision, is scary fast and a real adrenaline rush the first time you punch it.
4. Handling on the RX-8 is superb because of the 50/50 weight balance, light weight, rear wheel drive, and big grippy tires. The Evo is good, too, but with a different dynamic because of the all wheel drive and 60/40 weight balance.
5. I'm pretty big (6'3") and felt slightly claustrophic in sunroof-equipped RX-8s. I always felt uncomfortable with that A-pillar just a few inches away from my face. The Evo's upright seating position, excellent sight lines (except for the view out the back blocked by the big wing), and Recaro seat just feel better to me.
Both are driver's cars, and both are very capable machines. Their philosophies are quite different. You get more refinement with the Mazda, but at the expense of all-out raw performance. You got to work to get your heart pumping in the RX-8, whereas the
Evo always feels like a barely broken bronco: dangerous but attractive. Mazda is hoping to sell about 30,000 RX-8s in the first year, so the car will become a lot more ubiquitous than the 5700 or so Evos that have been sold. Just going by JD Powers numbers, you would expect the Mazda to be a bit more reliable in the long run than the Evo, but the first year of experiences seen here in evolutionm.net have shown the Mitsubishi to be a pretty well-made car. Sure, people have had burned out clutches, but that seems, in most cases, to over-eager owners. The Evo, despite its capabilities, is not a drag-racer. Is a Mazda dealer and service better than a Mitsu dealer and service? Maybe. And the corporation's woes are troublesome, whereas Mazda is being nursed back to health under Ford's guidance.
You want to lease the car and turn it in at the end. That means little to no modifications. You need a commuter car with the occasionaly mountain run. Sounds to me that the RX-8 might be the better the choice, but of course, that is for you decide.