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jasburbak Oct 19, 2005 12:15 PM

Worthy rivals for stock Evo?
 
I guess these kind of threads have been talked all over individually, but what are the stock Evo's worthy rivals?

this kid bet me $100 ( i know its nothing, but a free turbo timer in the end ;) that his stock '00 Mustang GT would smoke me...the thing is, he's never even heard of an Evo..he said there is no way a 4 cylinder car can beat him..

although he doensnt know hes in for a suprise, i was questioning who else can i take advantage of?

Warrtalon Oct 19, 2005 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by jasburbak
I guess these kind of threads have been talked all over individually, but what are the stock Evo's worthy rivals?

this kid bet me $100 ( i know its nothing, but a free turbo timer in the end ;) that his stock '00 Mustang GT would smoke me...the thing is, he's never even heard of an Evo..he said there is no way a 4 cylinder car can beat him..

although he doensnt know hes in for a suprise, i was questioning who else can i take advantage of?

With a proper launch, you will beat the following stock cars from a dig:

- Any year Mustang
- All Cobras before '03
- All LT1 and LS1 Z28s/SSs/TAs/Firehawks
- C1-C4 Vettes
- All GTOs
- All 350Zs and G35s
- All SRT-4s
- All WRXs (not STi)
- All Boxsters
- All Hondas
- All Saturns
- All Acuras except the NSX
- All Toyota's
- All Lexii (haha)
- All Hemi-Dodges

There's many more, I'm sure

On the flipside, you will lose to many of those from a roll, which doesn't count, since that's not a form of racing I'm familiar with.

Greg K Oct 19, 2005 12:30 PM

Please don't forget if you're going to race take it to the track.

lookEVO Oct 19, 2005 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by Warrtalon
With a proper launch, you will beat the following stock cars from a dig:

- Any year Mustang
- All Cobras before '03
- All LT1 and LS1 Z28s/SSs/TAs/Firehawks
- C1-C4 Vettes
- All GTOs
- All 350Zs and G35s
- All SRT-4s
- All WRXs (not STi)
- All Boxsters
- All Hondas
- All Saturns
- All Acuras except the NSX
- All Toyota's
- All Lexii (haha)
- All Hemi-Dodges

There's many more, I'm sure

On the flipside, you will lose to many of those from a roll, which doesn't count, since that's not a form of racing I'm familiar with.



+1 on that, also most VW's and Audi's

mdosu Oct 19, 2005 12:30 PM

what if he had the adjusted pulley for the supercharger...harder to tell if he's stock or not.

about 2 months ago, some Evo guy on here lost to a GT with pulley change and exhaust.

celerilux Oct 19, 2005 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by Greg K
Please don't forget if you're going to race take it to the track.

Sure kiddo, anything for you.

Aux. Oct 19, 2005 12:33 PM

Hey War are you talking about a high RPM hard launch or slipping the clutch ?

Warrtalon Oct 19, 2005 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by mdosu
what if he had the adjusted pulley for the supercharger...harder to tell if he's stock or not.

about 2 months ago, some Evo guy on here lost to a GT with pulley change and exhaust.

Mustangs are not supercharged. :confused:

Warrtalon Oct 19, 2005 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by Aux.
Hey War are you talking about a high RPM hard launch or slipping the clutch ?

Those two are not mutually exclusive. I launch from high RPM (6k) and feather it before hammering it, which requires a slight slip. This is not a launching advice thread. Just know that to get the full benefit of an Evo from a dig it must include a balls-out launch, else you start even slower than a 2wd car that is spinning. A bog is quite detrimental to any AWD launch...

mdosu Oct 19, 2005 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Mustangs are not supercharged. :confused:

Cobras are supercharged?

jasburbak Oct 19, 2005 12:37 PM

what supercharger?

Well thats cool to know, its good i didnt challenge that Evo 7 in my s2000 when i went back home (Turkey) this summer.. ;) The thing is, i dont want to dump my clutch for the take off, so i was planning on roll, you think i'd lose from a roll?
the evo has 4.9 sec 0-60 and the stang gt has 5.9 so from the dig it be obvious whats gonna happen..

i guess the only way to get 4.9 is to dump the clutch...

Warrtalon Oct 19, 2005 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by mdosu
Cobras are supercharged?

GTs are not Cobras. Only the 03+ Cobras were supercharged. Notice that I didn't include them in the list, so there are no Mustangs or Cobras in my list that are supercharged.

Warrtalon Oct 19, 2005 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by jasburbak
what supercharger?

Well thats cool to know, its good i didnt challenge that Evo 7 in my s2000 when i went back home (Turkey) this summer.. ;) The thing is, i dont want to dump my clutch for the take off, so i was planning on roll, you think i'd lose from a roll?
the evo has 4.9 sec 0-60 and the stang gt has 5.9 so from the dig it be obvious whats gonna happen..

i guess the only way to get 4.9 is to dump the clutch...

I said a "proper launch." I did not mention dumping the clutch. A dump of the clutch is not the proper launching method. If you don't know this, then you likely would get beaten from a dig more often than not, since you aren't skilled at launching yet.

From a roll, you will be much more likely to lose to a lot of those cars. You would still probably outrun a stock '00 GT, but not by as much as you think. There's no reason to ask about "from a roll" anyway, because that infers street racing, which we do not do. Head to a track and settle it like men. You will be $100 richer (minus track fees, haha).

daved Oct 19, 2005 12:41 PM

when you said all toyotas... did you also mean supras that are twin turbocharged?

Warrtalon Oct 19, 2005 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by daved
when you said all toyotas... did you also mean supras that are twin turbocharged?

Yes.


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