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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 07:36 AM
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 08:19 AM
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Damn...Silver never looked so good
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 08:41 AM
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your car looks very clean... what camera did you use?
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 12:29 PM
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your car looks very clean... what camera did you use?
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 12:37 PM
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Well he probably values function over bling and the front end isn't slammed because a competent chassis wiz aligned the car.
I don't know what that means??? I didn't say to slam the front, but the back is a lot lower than the front. I'm lower in the front, and I didn't need some chasis wiz to align my car.
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by il2az
I don't know what that means??? I didn't say to slam the front, but the back is a lot lower than the front. I'm lower in the front, and I didn't need some chasis wiz to align my car.

Well, if you can believe it, the front is actually a tad lower than the front measuring from ground to fender and frame rail to ground.

That said, I am probably going to raise the back a tad next time I need an alignment to get rid of the uber-dropped look in the back and try to dial out some rear geometry weirdness.

The front fender is larger than the rear, so it always gives the illusion of the front not being the same as the rear.
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 12:49 PM
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What suspension setup do you have? The car looks great... and nice pics.
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 12:52 PM
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What suspension setup do you have? The car looks great... and nice pics.
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 12:52 PM
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stock, the fender arches in the front make the front look higher when in fact it isn't.. and an even or near drop front and rear will keep the look that the front is higher but may have some adverse affects in handling, tire wear, weight distribution, etc.
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Well, if you can believe it, the front is actually a tad lower than the front measuring from ground to fender and frame rail to ground.

That said, I am probably going to raise the back a tad next time I need an alignment to get rid of the uber-dropped look in the back and try to dial out some rear geometry weirdness.

The front fender is larger than the rear, so it always gives the illusion of the front not being the same as the rear.
Does a slight difference in height front to rear actually have a noticeable impact on handling? I don't drive my car hard very often, and I lowered the front more just to even out the fender gap. I assume that the rake just adds to understeer I haven't noticed any odd tire wear, and my system in the trunk probably ruins any weight transfer or balance issues.
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 01:23 PM
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by il2az
Does a slight difference in height front to rear actually have a noticeable impact on handling? I don't drive my car hard very often, and I lowered the front more just to even out the fender gap. I assume that the rake just adds to understeer I haven't noticed any odd tire wear, and my system in the trunk probably ruins any weight transfer or balance issues.
In the first inch or so it doesn't... but after that the difference between great and terrible can be as much as a 1/4 in away. For people that track their cars occasionally like RL does it's a big deal. Your center of gravity drops quicker than your roll center does when lowering a car,... and while it may have the feel of handling better in regular driving, when you get to pushing the car hard there may simply not be enough shock travel to compliment that dropped stance. Mike Kojima, suspension geek at large, and friend of a friend wrote a pretty good series on this in Sport Compact Car. Tuning a suspension for handling and tuning it for BLING are two very different things.
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 04:22 PM
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Tarmac02
In the first inch or so it doesn't... but after that the difference between great and terrible can be as much as a 1/4 in away. For people that track their cars occasionally like RL does it's a big deal. Your center of gravity drops quicker than your roll center does when lowering a car,... and while it may have the feel of handling better in regular driving, when you get to pushing the car hard there may simply not be enough shock travel to compliment that dropped stance. Mike Kojima, suspension geek at large, and friend of a friend wrote a pretty good series on this in Sport Compact Car. Tuning a suspension for handling and tuning it for BLING are two very different things.
Thanks for the info... and sorry for the thread jack razorlab.
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 04:51 PM
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Thanks for the info... and sorry for the thread jack razorlab.
No worries. You asked a good question.
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