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I started the above thread... I want to know what you think the proper plan of action is for these seats.

Honestly and Truthfully, here it goes....

I in no way would never expect to not pay this guy for his seats. I am pretty honest and up front about things and would never screw anyone over, especially anyone i know.

The original owner of the seats had his car totaled. Someone else driving, bad situation handled badly and that was the end result. I wont disclose details about that as its not anyone's business and not important in making a decision about what is the correct plan of action.

I told him i would throw him some money for the seats if they were still usable (expecting maybe $600)... without discussion price we went ahead with our 3 way seat swap (bad idea, should of had price first) I swapped my leather seats into an 03 EVO, The wrecked MR seats into my car and the 03 seats into the wrecked MR so to have seats in the car for obvious reasons. My deal with the guy in the 03 was simple... We would split the cost of whatever the guy charged for the MR seats, which was a great deal for him and good for everyone else. I took time out of my schedule, went with the MR owner to the salvage yard, I pulled the seats as he had authorization from the insurance company to pull aftermarket parts and such. I then helped him pull off his turbo setup, exhaust, intake, BOV, cams... etc. The idea behind this was we would lower the cost of the seats for giving him a hand... He sold his turbo and manifold to another local evo owner and a good friend to him and use to be good friend to me.

Since this situation, the guy who bought his turbo and I have ended our friendship in a pretty terrible way over some BS which i dont care to discuss either. I get a PM from that guy saying the MR owner wanted the money for his seats now and he would be handling the transaction for him. Given our situation, i objected. Everyone but myself is currently deployed in the military to other countries... so we cant do this locally. The person who bought the turbo implied that i should pay him half the price of what the seats are worth new and that it was my fault for accepting the seats in the condition they are in and i have no say so in what i should pay for the seats since i have them in my car already and im not the one selling them. i dont buy that, thats BS.... i personally think i should pay what the seats are worth in the condition they were given to me in. which is actually a lot worse then the pictures in the link i provided. We also gave the seller perfectly good 03 seats as a replacement for the MR seats which in the condition were worth more then the MR seats anyway in my opinion.

This is what i want to know from you guys... who do you think is right as far as the price for the seats ? the guy saying half of what they are new regardless of condition and its my responsibility for accepting them ? or me who says i should pay what the seats were worth in the condition at the time of sale ? my logic is simple, you dont buy something for a price equal to what something can potentially be... thats like buying a project car for what the end of your project price would be... thats how i look at it... you pay for something in its current condition in my opinion. I am willing to pay a fair price, but i refuse to pay half of what they were worth new, that is absurd. thanks for your input and reading this long mess

 

Are you big? Hurt them=)..Dont let them push you around for BS.

Also, how'd all those indentions get in the seats?

 

whats the big deal if he got replacement seats not like he would have taken a hit for the IX seats from insurance. besides in the conditino they are in i say they arnt worth more than 200, and that is price for a straight buy not including a trade of seats. and ur ssl's were worth more than the viii and ix seats. i say you dont owe anyone anything because the seats that ended up in the car were worth more than the seats you took out. now if you just took out the seats thats a different story.

 

Hmm why isn't the guy who's seats they are, dealing with the transaction? I dont understand why there is this 3rd party guy now taking control (and you dont even like him).

Personally I think you shouldn't have bought the seats in the first place because they look heavily damaged. Your friend should have just swapped you even. Your old seats were worth more than his, and whats his insurance gunna care?

You shouldn't owe him anything.

 

i agree with all of you, my seats were worth more and i agree its not like he is going to be charged anything and the insurance already paid him for everything anyway by paying off his car... however, i made a deal with him, and i tend to go by my word. i have these morals from somewhere i dont know... i told him i would give him some money for the seats so i will... i also told the guy with the 03 that whatever the price in the end would be, we would split it... i know i am TIITB in the end, but, i told him what i would do, and so that is what i am going with... just the how much is what matters now. I think 600 is a stretch honestly, but thats why im writing all this... to get your guys' opinion

 

i missed this one... the answer is, he doesnt have internet access (supposedly) as often as the other guy. I already, after a few arguments thru PM told him i refused to deal with him and would only deal with the original seller as it was none of his business and was a conflict of interest anyway... but i have yet to receive his email address as well as an email from the seller

 

The original seller legally has the right to transfer the payment operations into the controll of another person, I'm sure you know this though because its common practice (real estate for instance).

The only catch is, the original seller needs to inform you (via writing if he's serious), that the payment operations are in the hands of his friend. If he does that then you're "legally" required to work with him. Doesn't mean you have to accept his price, but you do have to work with him.

Best of luck, sticky situations like this are frustrating. Lesson learned, I think even you said it, dont buy something until you have a price.

 

thanks for everyones advice so far... anyone else ?

 

just give him 300 bucks, and get it from the guy you gave your ssls to because thats still a deal with the trade of 03 seats for ssls. and tell him to shut up

 

well if it was me I would demand my old seats back in the condition they were given and get away from them. Otherwise I would say just give them 200$ and tell them the rest of it went to the labor of you helping him get his stuff off the other car, and they can work they rest out.

 

if only it were that easy...

I have a deal with the guy in the 03 ... we pay half of what the total ends up being to the guy of the MR...

I have a deal with the guy in the MR, i will give him an amount of money ... TBD lol ... for the seats. A discounted amount due to me helping him pull all of his parts.

 

they arnt worth more than 200 without trade in, so just give him 200 bucks.

 

Tell him to shut up and go back on ur deal and get ur seats back...

 

Why did you trade your SSL seats for busted up MR seats??

Those seats aren't horrible, but they are pretty damn bad. I wouldn't take them!!

If I were you, I'd do what others have said and try to get your **** back.

The other guys are deployed?? Any of them Marines located around Jacksonville?? I know you see a lot of shady crap like that go down around here. It sucks when you can't trust people that are supposed to be your friends!!

Good luck.

 

nah, they are army guys... my seats are in the 03 right now, he is here in town, but his seats have been in the totaled MR in a scrap yard for quite a few months now, so im sure they are no good. unless someone bought the MR for parts. There wasnt much that was usable out of it though. it was flipped and rammed, no body parts, the tranny was cracked, so im sure the tcase was screwed... but oh well, not the point i guess...