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Old Feb 5, 2004 | 01:40 AM
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2way alarm-is it worth it?

i've been shopping for the alarm for a few days but still in doubt about 2-way system.
over 400 bucks a bit pricey but just don't know if it is worth it.
like paging you a false positive notice...
any experience you might want to share?
any good alarm in general?
thanks
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Old Feb 5, 2004 | 12:42 PM
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alarms are a waste of money , dont you already have one?
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Old Feb 5, 2004 | 12:44 PM
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i have one its pretty nice

no regrets

Clifford RS 3.5 with remote start
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Old Feb 5, 2004 | 12:44 PM
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evo's don't come with alarms, i have a two way paging, i have mine toned down so low, that you have to beat the **** out of my car to set it off so i dont' get false alarms
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Old Feb 5, 2004 | 12:48 PM
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oops
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Old Feb 5, 2004 | 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by EVO KING295
alarms are a waste of money , dont you already have one?
The way I look at is this: The alarm will pay for itself during the life of the car due to reduction in insurance premiums, so why not? It's true that a skilled car thief will get your car if they so desire, regardless of what security measures you take. Also, a lot of thefts are smash & grab, so more fool you if you leave stuff visible in your ride. But, for the casual car thief it does act as a deterrent to a certain extent, especially if they're wise enough to realise it's a paging alarm (the antenna gives it away). After spending $30K on a new car I didn't have a problem putting a $600 2 way paging alarm on mine (Viper).
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Old Feb 5, 2004 | 01:17 PM
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any problems with the remote start on the Evo?
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Old Feb 5, 2004 | 02:09 PM
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i have viper 690xv, no problems so far
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Old Feb 5, 2004 | 02:39 PM
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I have the Prestige Two way w/ remote start and no problems.
Don't forget that the remote start also doubles as a turbo timer. Something to ponder on....
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Old Feb 5, 2004 | 02:45 PM
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The way I look at is this: The alarm will pay for itself during the life of the car due to reduction in insurance premiums, so why not? It's true that a skilled car thief will get your car if they so desire, regardless of what security measures you take. Also, a lot of thefts are smash & grab, so more fool you if you leave stuff visible in your ride. But, for the casual car thief it does act as a deterrent to a certain extent, especially if they're wise enough to realise it's a paging alarm (the antenna gives it away). After spending $30K on a new car I didn't have a problem putting a $600 2 way paging alarm on mine (Viper).
The stock immobilizing key will get you the very same discount from your insurance carrier. So adding an alarm will give you no additional insurance savings.

Alarms are only good to keep crack heads from stealing the change from your ashtray. They don't keep any real thieves away. Existing alarm technology is soo easy to circumvent that even casual thieves know how to get around them.

I've had cars with expertly installed Clifford systems attempted stolen. In the end, the alarm, with battery back up siren and other gadgets didn't even activate. It was the manual fuel pump kill switch I installed that kept the thieves from getting my car.

In retrospect, my life would have been a lot easier if the car just disappeared. I wouldn't have had to deal with a 3 month repair, rental fees and the general inconvenience associated with that situation.

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Old Feb 5, 2004 | 02:55 PM
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The stock immobilizing key will get you the very same discount from your insurance carrier. So adding an alarm will give you no additional insurance savings.

Alarms are only good to keep crack heads from stealing the change from your ashtray. They don't keep any real thieves away. Existing alarm technology is soo easy to circumvent that even casual thieves know how to get around them.

I've had cars with expertly installed Clifford systems attempted stolen. In the end, the alarm, with battery back up siren and other gadgets didn't even activate. It was the manual fuel pump kill switch I installed that kept the thieves from getting my car.

In retrospect, my life would have been a lot easier if the car just disappeared. I wouldn't have had to deal with a 3 month repair, rental fees and the general inconvenience associated with that situation.

SC~
You're wrong on the insurance discount, at least with my insurance carrier. They have a scale regarding security and you get 0 reduction for the key. The scale goes upwards depending on the type of system and whether it is battery backed up or not. I get something like $100 discount a year for my alarm. I also disagree with the car alarm. Casual thieves do not know how to defeat car alarms, I know, I used to be one (have the criminal record to prove it too). As I said, it pays for itself over the course of the car so why not.
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Old Feb 6, 2004 | 10:30 AM
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When 5 of 7 of my closest car buddies all had their alarm equipped cars taken by thieves, I'll tend to believe that alarms are just good for creating noise.

Your insurance could well deal with discounts differently than mine. But even a $100 a year discount will take 5-7 years to pay for the alarm.

Criminal record or not, casual thieves have to be circumventing these alarms. There wouldn't be nearly as many alarm equipped cars out there disappearing they couldn't. Because there aren't THAT many professional car thieves out there.

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Old Feb 6, 2004 | 02:03 PM
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When 5 of 7 of my closest car buddies all had their alarm equipped cars taken by thieves, I'll tend to believe that alarms are just good for creating noise.

Your insurance could well deal with discounts differently than mine. But even a $100 a year discount will take 5-7 years to pay for the alarm.

Criminal record or not, casual thieves have to be circumventing these alarms. There wouldn't be nearly as many alarm equipped cars out there disappearing they couldn't. Because there aren't THAT many professional car thieves out there.

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Like I said in my 1st post, if they want it bad enough they will get it.

Yes, it will take me 6 years for the alarm to pay for itself. It will also take me 6 years to pay for the car. How come one is OK but the other isn't?

Finally, park 2 Evos next to each other, one with and alarm and one without, and see which gets stolen first. I know when I was younger and a ***** we would completely ignore cars with alarms. Fuel cutoff switches were easy too because they were always under the dash or under the seat, same as wheel lock keys are always in the trunk or glove box. My friends were much better at it than me and they even had their own tow truck, apparently the alarms would switch off when they were elevated above a certain angle, but they were career car thieves. I'd just steal cars for a ride home after having too much to drink, which was a recipe for disaster in itself. Luckily, I never hurt anyone. There doesn't need to be many thieves to account for the thefts, just look how many cars were stolen in a night in Gone in Seixty Seconds . Seriously, one group of skilled car thieves stealing for a purpose (parts, export, whatever) can account for a hell of a lot of missing cars.
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Old Feb 6, 2004 | 02:38 PM
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I used to work at a stereo/alarm shop and I asked the owner what the best alarm was and they say hands down a custom setup with the Phython/Viper 790 (top of the line model with the LED screen) has all the features and great security features also. I think the best deterence would be a removable steering wheel with a lock over the attachment hub then place one of those AutoLoc pedal locks on your accelerator. They cant do jack unless they tow ur car... which is highly unlikely
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Old Feb 6, 2004 | 11:00 PM
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jeez too much security ****! just buy a house with a garage and whenever you go somewhere buy a dog and leave it in the car, thats the ultimate thieft deterrent! (make sure to leave your windows slighlty down so it can breathe, and train it not to **** in your ride)
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