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Moore Automotives Evo Builds
Since we have been getting our name out we decided to step it up.
I recently blew my headgasket and the ARP studs stretched being old so head obviously lifted. I took the chance and im fully building the motor and trans. I blew 6 gear out a week prior so now a 5 speeds going in. Im doing a 2.0 long rod motor bored .20 over. ENGINE Wisco 2.3 stroker pistons .20 over MAP 156mm Ultimate Duty I beams Master gasket kit OEM New oil pump Balance Shaft elimination Kit w/bearings and Seal Cap Kiggley HLA MAP Setrab Oil Cooler kit w/ss lines OEM Crank Supertech valves black nitrate coateing Supertech valve guides supertech valve seals ACL Race bearing MAP REV 2 OMNI 4 BAR MAP ARP 625+ Head Studs "ARP-207-4302" Sparktech ignition non-CDI Battery relocated to Trunk Optima Redtop w/ SS battery Tray TIAL QR BOV w/ETS Recirc Tube Mil Spec 65mm TB "Thanks Matt@spec-ops" Transmission/Suspension Torque Solutions trans,passenger & Rear Motor mount kit AP Front lower Motor mount Exedy Twin Disc HD MAP Clutch Fork Stop STM 1 piece SS Clutch line 5 Speed Swap "Built by buschur Racing w/ Evo VIII 4th" B&M Short Shifter w/Torque Solutions Shifter base bushings Redline Custom Shifter Boot for my 5 speed swap. Fuel & Cooling FIC 1450cc Injectors Buschur Racing Double Pumper STM Fuel Lab FPR kit AEM Meth Kit w/ Direct Port Meth w/4x CM5 nozzels"sleeper Job" ETS 3.5 FMIC Kit"modified for T3 Turbo Setup Suspension STD R3 Suspension Whiteline Roll Center Adjustment kit Turbo setup TURBO TRIX T3 tubular mani Turbosmart HyperGate 45mm Wastegate w/26psi in springs Bullseyepower CompR 62 S362 .70 A/R w/.82 3" V-Band Head will have a valve job and motor will get the works and be o-ringed. Ill keep this thread updated with pics and tuning progress. |
Bump added more parts and my setup.
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Good luck on the build..should be a nice beast after the build is finished.
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Nice build cant wait to see some pics!
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Originally Posted by FLOW1
(Post 9771246)
Good luck on the build..should be a nice beast after the build is finished.
Originally Posted by JTEVO2932
(Post 9771271)
Nice build cant wait to see some pics!
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Sounds like a pretty stout build I can't wait to see the results.
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Originally Posted by cursedsm
(Post 9771291)
Sounds like a pretty stout build I can't wait to see the results.
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Originally Posted by Josh@MooreAutomotive
(Post 9771297)
Thanks. Alot of ny upgrades are due to Tom and his advice. You need to get that bottom end reinforced soon lol.
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Originally Posted by cursedsm
(Post 9771321)
Well I need to stay working longer then 4 days a month to build a motor hahaha. Skilled trades in Michigan are really really really slow right now. Holding on by the skin of my teeth litterly. But I'm sure as you know tax time is comming so my tax dollars will prob go twards property taxes instead of a new motor {thumbdwn}
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You guys should open a shop here in Michigan being we need a good shop. The local ones out here do terrible jobs and you overcharged for shady tree mechanic quality. That way you can hire me and I don't have to be poor hahaha. And yes I have said this to all the shop guys I know hahahaha. Plenty of Ford and Chevy and Mopar but nothing good and quality for imports.
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Interesting build! To be honest I've never heard of you guys! But it looks like it will be a solid build and a very interesting choice of turbo! Can't wait to see this play out
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Originally Posted by evoforstevo
(Post 9774413)
Interesting build! To be honest I've never heard of you guys! But it looks like it will be a solid build and a very interesting choice of turbo! Can't wait to see this play out
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Added more parts and info.
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Ok today got a nice package in 4 gallons of Boost juice and my AEM Meth Injection Kit along with the Failsafe Monitoring system and gauge. I might also be swapping out the turbo don't know yet though.
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very nice! I love me some boost juice ;) build's lookin good
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Originally Posted by evoforstevo
(Post 9789356)
very nice! I love me some boost juice ;) build's lookin good
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what a nice guy :updown:
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Originally Posted by evoforstevo
(Post 9789365)
what a nice guy :updown:
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Nice choice of parts. Hopefully you won't put a bullet through those parts in your house like you did your hand! ;)
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:thumbup:
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Well on Friday I finished running the cabels and installing the shifter assembley in the car, I got lucky and the swap kit I bought had a B&M Short Shifter already so I'm gonna sell the torque solutions short shifter I have. Overall the swap was real easy since there was no motor in the car lol.
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Ordered a few more parts.
DEI Titanium Turbo Blanket kit 0 gauge wire Tsunami distribution block w/manl fuses Aem Analog 0-60 psi boost gauge 90* fitting for the oil feed Single gauge pod for my meth Gauge |
Heres my newest update. I ordered the Fuel Lap AFPR Kit and also a nasty mesth kit, I also installed the New AEM Analog 0-60 psi and the meth failsafe, Im doing direct port Meth 1 jet per runner at 220cc each totaling 840cc. I also ran the 0 gauge wire for power supply.
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...2/IMG_1334.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...2/IMG_1340.jpg |
Good luck on the build man.
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Originally Posted by rhd-jon
(Post 9805939)
Good luck on the build man.
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looks good man. some quality parts and it looks like its moving along very nicely. what are your expected numbers both with and w/o the meth? plan on driving it this winter or just waiting til spring?
eventually I will catch up with some of you guys, been meaning to make it out to the bbq/dyno days but work too much. in arlington/herndon quite reg, if you see a black 8 with rpf1s give a wave. cheers and gl with the completion |
Thanks, this wont be done until atleast mid winter or early fall. Im only doing meth tune as I have a mbc. I would like to see 650-700 asd be dailying the car at the same time.
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Here are soem updates.
The Turbo has been Wrapped and the Tap Work was done for the Direct Port meth setup. Direct Port Meth 4xCM5 nozzels http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...-00-04_359.jpg Turbo Wrapped http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...-58-23_338.jpg AEM Failsafe Meth Gauge and Pod. http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...0-46-20_66.jpg I have removed the old Oil Cooler and cleaned things up a bit. |
So the meth has to be injected directly into the manifold?
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Originally Posted by evoforstevo
(Post 9812945)
So the meth has to be injected directly into the manifold?
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Interesting. I guess I haven't seen that before. Build looks good, you guys are very thorough
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Originally Posted by evoforstevo
(Post 9812990)
Interesting. I guess I haven't seen that before. Build looks good, you guys are very thorough
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Is that gonna be enough room for the meth to atomize? I know alot of kits tell you to do it right at the tb elbow or the 90 in our case, but I guess it would have to do about what size jet your planning on running. I would worry that isn't enough room for it to atomize fully.
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Originally Posted by cursedsm
(Post 9813235)
Is that gonna be enough room for the meth to atomize? I know alot of kits tell you to do it right at the tb elbow or the 90 in our case, but I guess it would have to do about what size jet your planning on running. I would worry that isn't enough room for it to atomize fully.
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I'll be stopping by on Monday to have you guys take a look at my TB VIII and discuss build and tuning options with you guys.
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Originally Posted by USCGSAM
(Post 9813290)
I'll be stopping by on Monday to have you guys take a look at my TB VIII and discuss build and tuning options with you guys.
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ok got my Evo VIII Head from Sierra Motorsports, Now all I am waiting on is the 5 speed harness from him and also the seat belt Buckle assembly. The head was a virgin 100% Stock From what I could see.
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congrats josh nice build!!! (:
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Originally Posted by alex:)ix
(Post 9837010)
congrats josh nice build!!! (:
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Originally Posted by Josh@MooreAutomotive
(Post 9837019)
Thanks hows your car doing?
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ok, here is a Big update. today i picked the motor and head up and started to install everything "dummy me" I threw the old BSE Assembly out with a Balance shaft attached and I needed some of the parts to swap over to use on my stubby shaft. I mad a call and got taken care of by a good friend and brother.
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...2/IMG_1380.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...2/IMG_1381.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...2/IMG_1382.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...2/IMG_1383.jpg I learned my Lesson buy a bin setup for all the parts and bolts. http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...2/IMG_1384.jpg Quick Ref Guide for what it will look like assembled. http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...2/IMG_1389.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...2/IMG_1390.jpg Took some time and blasted the oil Coolant Pipe to clean it up and painted it black as well along with the oil dipstick tube. http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...2/IMG_1391.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...2/IMG_1392.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...-01-03_870.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...-00-55_981.jpg |
Well here are a few more from today spent a little time working on it and painted the A/C Bracket,Power Steering Bracket and the Water Nect "not pictured" and also worked on the Valve Cover and get it repainted as well. I am decideing what to add to it as for a logo lol.
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Well the cars running and I have put 300+ miles on it already. We had to do some troubleshooting and we figured that my QR BOV Spring is too stiff and not allowing the car to idle right at low loads. I go pig rich when I decel as my vac is between 6-7psi and so I need the Black Spring which is a 6psi which should help on decel and also with the A/F Ratios. The 5 speed swap is very nice all I can say is I am glad I did it. This turbo has been a pain to get on but so far its awsome and I love it.
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Nice dude..i gotta see it in person!
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Dyno picture
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I will update this thread with better pictures and Dyno results on saturday. The tuneing has been amazeing saying that this was a large turbo and Im on low boost its still making a insane amount of power as of right now.
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http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...2/IMG_1394.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...2/IMG_1395.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...2/IMG_1397.jpg Ok one thing we forgot to swap the MAP Sensor during the 3rd run when we started to turn up the boost so the 35.25 is really 38-39 psi and the dyno reads 1 psi higer then what you run so the 42 is 41psi. the 608 run is 3rd gear the 616 is 4th and the 553 is 3rd on 32psi. We had one change and that was to a Buschur SD Catback which picked up 11 whp and 10 ft/lbs with minor af changes but at 32 psi. http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...2_DynoTune.jpg Heres the S362 vs FP Black both JB Turbos. http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2..._DynoComp2.jpg |
Originally Posted by alex:)ix
(Post 9837053)
bad :/ the turbo is blown or idk it doesnt make more power so im looking to upgrade the turbo i went to another local shop for cams fuel pump n tune long story... im disappointed now lol
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Originally Posted by wjamyers
(Post 9907986)
u shud post up the story so others can benefit from your experience.
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That bep .70 hot side really restricts that turbo. Get the .88 and you will really see it stretch its legs. Here is one of my dynos with that turbo https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...h-results.html
I have ran it on my talon, and a friend has one on his eclipse. Pretty much anything 600whp and above it stops flowing above 7k. |
Originally Posted by mxguy1286
(Post 9908719)
That bep .70 hot side really restricts that turbo. Get the .88 and you will really see it stretch its legs. Here is one of my dynos with that turbo https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...h-results.html
I have ran it on my talon, and a friend has one on his eclipse. Pretty much anything 600whp and above it stops flowing above 7k. |
What cams are in the car? I have had some great luck with kelford 280cams. Its a lot more work and money to port the head then to swap out the exhaust housing. I am sure you would see more gains from cams and a exhaust housing. My stock head made 720whp d.j. and holds power to 9k without dropping one bit.
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Originally Posted by mxguy1286
(Post 9908768)
What cams are in the car? I have had some great luck with kelford 280cams. Its a lot more work and money to port the head then to swap out the exhaust housing. I am sure you would see more gains from cams and a exhaust housing. My stock head made 720whp d.j. and holds power to 9k without dropping one bit.
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My bad, .85 t3 housing. Its a 6bolt outlet is the only problem so you will need to remake the o2 housing. http://www.bullseyepower.com/S300.asp And yeah some bigger cams sure would help the power!
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Originally Posted by mxguy1286
(Post 9908819)
My bad, .85 t3 housing. Its a 6bolt outlet is the only problem so you will need to remake the o2 housing. http://www.bullseyepower.com/S300.asp And yeah some bigger cams sure would help the power!
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Looks like the build is coming together nicely Josh! I think the last time we met, you still had the Eclipse, lol.
I need to stop by Moore and get some quotes on work for the Ralliart, maybe I'll get a chance to see the beast if you drive it there. |
subscribed. SWEET build. can't wait to get my POS back on the dyno. i followed your recommendations and went with S2/beehives and shifted over to SD on the ECMlink and now i need tuning. that said with the way she rides now street tuning isn't an option as it was before(she is a little to quick) from a safety standpoint she is mapped for DD w/o boost. Love the S2 lope/idle :-) i'll be stopping by soon.
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Nice Job Josh.....
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